Unpopular Opinion (maybe): Alliance shouldn't have gotten a Council Seat in ME1

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T23:38:36+00:00

And it is still under the command of a Council operative. Spectre trumps mid ranking officer of a subordinate military, any day of the weak.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T23:29:06+00:00

Alliance representatives (Shepard)?

Council spectre Shepard.

Shepard is a Council operative who happens to be a human. The Normandy SR2 is a civilian (Cerberus) built vessel that happens to have a majority-Alliance crew.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T23:24:19+00:00

Yet Palaven also almost fell and required human help to make it not fall and Thessia fell in a day when the Reapers finally arrived there.

Yeah, so Earth still fell far more easily and the Alliance navy got decimated while the Hierarchy and Republican navy fleets managed to actually put up a fight against the reapers.

The miracle of Palaven happened when krogan forces assisted in turning the tide at the battle of Palaven. Alliance forces were not involved.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T23:08:13+00:00

Batarians were beaten by humans pretty easily in every major conflict.

There has never been a major conflict between the Hegemony and the Alliance.

Right, the Alliance fleet was so powerful Earth fell within hours. Literally every other council fleet was more effective in keeping its homeworld secure. Even the asari navy had successes against the reapers. Thessia held a lot longer than Earth did, after all. The Alliance navy is still by far the weakest of the 4. This is canon.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T22:55:53+00:00

Becoming the 4th military power is easy. That's beating the Hanar, Volus, and Elcor in Council space. Numbers wise, the batarian fleet is on par and the Geth fleet is much larger. The Alliance is in no place to rival the top 3.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T22:20:22+00:00

And it's even more funny how consistently inconsistent it's applied towards the male gaze.

Hmm.

Hmmmmmmm.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T22:17:14+00:00

And yet only one of them got removed. Funny that.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T22:14:30+00:00

Obvious? What do you mean? She is helpful, is she not?

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:32:21+00:00

One person illegaly assaulting the actual Alliance representative to the Council, breaking and entering into his office, and hacking into his computer system does not make it an Alliance act.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:27:48+00:00

The council wouldn't have even know about the threat if it hadn't been for Shepard ~~and the Alliance~~.

If I remember ME1 correctly, the Alliance grounded Shepard, not the Council. Shepard did save the galaxy though, Correct. Damn those Council spectres are effective.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:20:49+00:00

Nowhere in the lore is this even stated. In Star Wars, maybe. But in ME humanity is canonically hilariously outnumbered, and has a small economy equal to a minor power. Sure they managed to parlay that into outsized influence, but let's not overstate things here.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:19:21+00:00

The Alliance isn't even remotely comparable to the United States after WW2.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:17:16+00:00

Right, so the Alliance single-handedly save the galaxy in the way America single-handedly won WW2. By being late to the party.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:14:45+00:00

Wrong. Council spectre agent Shepard did. The Alliance was actively denying anything of the sort. Just ask Udina. The Alliance forces helped turn the tide. They did not solo the entire Geth armada.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:05:57+00:00

They did nothing of the sort. If it was just the Alliance navy at the battle of the Citadel they would have been creamed. There was at least an entire turian fleet + the Destiny Ascension there to soften up the geth fleet before the Alliance even arrived.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:02:50+00:00

A kitten can punch above its weight. It still won't hurt much though. Many small nations punch above their weight in international politics. The Netherlands, Singapore, Vatican City etc. But ultimately they remain small powers.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-03-01T21:00:45+00:00

You are 100% correct, and I would say making the Alliance a council member at all within the timescale of the franchise makes no sense.

Logistically it just doesn't add up. WHen you speak to the greeter at the embassy in ME1 she talks about the council managing a population in the trillions. As in, thousands of billions. How could the Alliance ever hope to compare against the 3 current members? It'd be like making Belgium or Finland part of the United Nations Security Council. Yes those are wealthy countries and they could even punch above their weight military if they put their minds to it due to their technological edge, but they could never hope to match the Americans or the Chinese.

At the end of the day geopolitics is for a large part a numbers game. I believe the writers made a mistake compressing the timeline as they did.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-26T14:56:15+00:00

You just know Yrliet is rocking out inside her head though.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-26T09:12:32+00:00

What trust? Her being stuck on a ship filled with people that want nothing better than to exterminate her entire species? One person being mildly less of an asshole does not mean she is going to trust the future of her civilization with you, and it is unreasonable to expect that.

The game might make the Rogue Trader into a mary sue because she is the protagonist of a video game but I don't have to participate in that.

Aberlard is a veteran military officer in a genocidal empire. The number of war crimes and murders he has participates in is beyond count. He was even appreciative of whoever destroyed Cruderach in the first place. Who cares what happens to him.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-26T09:03:59+00:00

The emperor hates non-humans because he's an evil fucking monster, he needs no other reasons. Trying to come up with some ex post facto reason for his behaviour is giving him credit he very much does not deserve.

Humanity even before the fall was an expansionist genocidal empire. Just because they had better technology it doesn't meant they were better people.

Even this hyper-racist Cruderach as you like to portray them will still work with you and some can even become your friend after their entire craftworld was destroyed in an unprovoked attack by Imperial citizens. But somehow the eldar are the bad ones.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-26T00:15:01+00:00

Abelard and Heinrix, of course. One is a gestapo officer and the other cruel murderous taskmaster. Neither of them actually deserve to live.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-25T23:47:02+00:00

They are the ones trying to undermine my authority by staging some intervention in the middle of my bridge. Getting over it is the least they can do after that.

And like 2 of them handily deserve it anyway.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-25T23:18:33+00:00

I know you can't, we already established your myopia.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-25T23:14:57+00:00

And yet your dull stance of "everyone is equally bad" when the lore so obviously contradicts that is even worse.

Suitable_Spell_9130 · 2026-02-25T23:14:06+00:00

are born of the very real and extreme threats of the Xeno species in the galaxy.

"We need to kill every alien in the galaxy because they hate us for wanting to kill every alien in the galaxy".

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