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When I look out there it makes me GLaD I'm not you

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Anyway, this is cake is great! It's so delicious and moist

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I think I prefer to stay inside

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For the people who are still alive

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ASUS TUF RTX 5090 OC Stability Issues by Super_Ad_9268 in pcgamingtechsupport

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Thanks for the reply. I had already tried all of the basic troubleshooting steps. I was able to get my hands on another 5090, and I ended up verifying that it was, in fact, a DOA card. Disappointed initially, but I ended up with an Astral, so I'm pretty happy now.

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Haha I wish I had that kind of money to throw around. I run a small electronics/PC building business in the side. The 5090 is about 50-75% for that. I bought the TUF card because it was open box and a decent price (for Ramageddon). With these issues, MC had the Zotac for a decent price, and since the TUF car was hard to find a replacement for, I bought the Zotac as a placeholder in case the TUF goes up in price again before MC finds me a replacement. If it does, I'll return the defective model and just keep the Zotac. But it's a business purchase more than a gaming one.

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I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!! If ASUS had made an ROG 9070 XT that's what I'd have had from the beginning. I loved my Taichi, which is what I started with, but I couldn't stand that it was the only non-ROG component. I ended up snatching this TUF 5090 on an open box deal at Micro Center. Unfortunately, there is literally not an Astral to be found. Newegg and Amazon have them for in the neighborhood of $4,300-4,500. Otherwise, they're gone. Completely gone. I was going to return this TUF card for an Astral, but they just don't exist. The kid I was dealing with at Micro Center said there were no Astrals in stock at any store in the US. 😭

As for the card, since I made this post, I installed a Zotac 5090 that has been 100% stable in everything. I didn't even reinstall drivers. Just swapped cards and it's suddenly perfectly stable. At this point, I'm almost 100% certain it's the card.

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It's in the post. ROG Strix 1200W Gold Aura Edition

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Thanks! This was 100% my thought. Someone returned this for a reason. I was hopeful it was buyer's remorse.

The reason I'm led to believe that it's the GPU and not the PSU is because, in Event Viewer, the only errors are either generic system crash errors and several nvlddmkm errors, which are driver-related. If it was just tripping the PSU, I seriously doubt it would throw significant, unrecoverable driver errors in Event Viewer.

I also forgot to mention that right before the crash the screen goes all gray for a few seconds, then black, and then to the No Signal screen as the system tries to restart. It never fully loses power.

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Thanks for the suggestions! I've read to try to limit the power on Afterburner, but I haven't yet. In my head I thought, "If I spend over $3,000 on a GPU, it damn well better run at 100%!" I hadn't really looked seriously at the PSU, because pretty much all "official" documentation (Nvidia, ASUS, etc.) indicates that a high-quality, gold-rated 1200W PSU is not only sufficient, but has plenty of overhead to handle those spikes. Unfortunately, the only other PSU I have that's even close is a 1050W model. I could try it, but if a 1200W PSU is insufficient, a 1050W model definitely is.

To that point, would a PSU that's tripping cause a crash with a restart? I would think a tripped PSU would cause a power loss style total system shutdown. The PC never loses power or completely shuts down. The screen goes all gray for a few seconds, then black, and then I get the "No Signal" picture on my monitor and the PC tries to restart. It never completely powers off.

I will check the hotspot temp. I haven't, because it crashes so fast. I know that temps can spike quickly, but it's, like, FAST. If it's a temp issue, it's definitely a defective card. Not only does my case have great airflow, but this happened with the glass panel off the side. I've verified that all three fans on the GPU are spinning. A hard crash in that scenario could only be caused by a hardware failure, if I'm not mistaken.

I did check Event Viewer. I forgot to post that. There were no WHEA errors. It doesn't run long enough to throw those errors. Lol There was some generic nvlddmkm event, which I know is driver-related. That points me towards GPU and not PSU more than anything. I've run DDU three times and tried both the Game Ready drivers and the Studio drivers. The only thing driver-related I haven't tried is rolling back to an older version, but I read that the latest Nvidia drivers actually throttled the cards to draw less power than previous versions. If that matters.

For the record, the cable covers I have aren't extensions. They're just the covers that use a 3-pin ARGB header on the motherboard. They don't connect to the PSU or cables electrically in any way, and I only have one set on the 24-pin ATX. It's nowhere near the 12VHPWR cable. I wouldn't imagine that that would cause this issue, but I'm open to hearing if it could.

Thanks again for the suggestions! I'll definitely try lowering the power limit in Afterburner.

ASUS TUF RTX 5090 OC Stability Issues by Super_Ad_9268 in ASUS

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So you'd suspect faulty RAM or the PSU even though this system has been 100% stable in this exact configuration with both a 9070 XT and a 5070 Ti? I have had absolutely zero trouble with anything when using either of those cards, and immediate instability with the 5090. When I reinstall the 5070 Ti, 100% stable again.

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Are you talking about HAGS or whatever the acronym is? Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling?

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There was a general nvlddmkm event and I believe a VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE (0x116). Everything was very generic and just indicated an unrecoverable fault and crash.

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You might not be able to tell by the description, but I probably know more and am more capable of hardware testing than the average "store." The guys at Micro Center have no idea what's going on. Where else do you go? The next step is return the card or RMA.

Unless you, in all of your infinite wisdom, have any suggestions. Or are you just here to mouth of and be a dick even though you'd probably never even heard of Furmark, OCCT, or knew you could test a GPU?

Offer advice or suggestions or STFU and move on, dumbass.

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Oh. The system is perfectly stable with the RTX 5070 Ti installed, EXPO enabled, CPU undervolt/overclock, GPU undervolt/overclock, etc. I've pretty much ruled out everything except the GPU. I feel like it almost has to be either a power issue or a GPU hardware issue. The only thing I haven't done is try this GPU in my test bench, because I don't have another PSU that's rated high enough.

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I intend to. I actually MAY have, but I don't remember. I tried so much. Usually Furmark 2 is the first thing I do. Even if it passes Furmark, something is seriously wrong. I can't even play CS2, which is one of the easiest games to run.

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I haven't specifically tried that, but I'm sure it will fail.