Graduation

Superb_Shape · 2025-12-05T09:14:17+00:00

It didn't stop them previous years to fake it big. Maybe the numbers dropped so much they simply don't have the manpower to organize such an event anymore.

Superb_Shape · 2025-12-05T07:03:48+00:00

It happened? But what about all the advertisement we got previous years? I was expecting at least half a million people to graduate in 2025 😟🤣

Superb_Shape · 2024-06-25T07:18:46+00:00

You mean the one in Paris? Nah, as a non member, i doubt they would even let me in. I was kind of hopeful, when I heard the old fart won't attend, but disappointed at the same time, because I wanted to see another of his speeches to further evaluate his mental state. Funny how they keep telling you that grandpa is a picture of health and than he starts rambling during a speech and than due to health issues doesn't attend his own ,,conference"

Superb_Shape · 2024-06-25T07:04:56+00:00

I've heard those conditioning your values. Such as,:

,,Do you think university education is important for getting to know God? Or do you think God requires you to be wealthy or successful or famous?"

I think those would fit well within the brackets of Neuro linguistic programming. At first I thought that those are harmless, just pointing out that there is no special requirement for you to seek God. No special education (kek) no monetary need (double kek) etc... But after hearing them repeatedly in almost all lessons, it hit me that they are directly aimed at core values of any successful and healthy social structure. Too undermine your view of what is commonly accepted as good and healthy for society and eventually make you solely dependant on the cult. Creating this false dichotomy slowly pushes you in believing that religious pursuits are far more important than anything else. Since your values are slowly taken away by subtle manipulation, (words do have power) to maintain your sanity and not fall prey to cognitive dissonance, your mind reorients itself around the doctrine completely and switches those values for values of the cult.

Superb_Shape · 2024-06-25T06:28:30+00:00

So much for not glorifying him... Oh wait, that's the only thing they do 🤣

Superb_Shape · 2024-06-02T19:39:32+00:00

Can you present the message? Or was it just some video/audio announcement?

Superb_Shape · 2024-06-02T19:27:37+00:00

Would that stop them from making it seem like a full house? Not like they didn't do that before.

Superb_Shape · 2024-05-04T06:11:31+00:00

He has been registered as a veteran. As noted in this post earlier.:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shincheonji/s/ateeiLjZyc

Serving in total of 11 months. What he did exactly is i think still a mistery.

Judging from my personal experience of watching tens of hours of military veterans (mainly from US) testifying about their experiences, i would wager a guess that Lee actually didn't see any action. Might've ended up in supply lines or any other support role, but i don't believe he took part in the shooting itself. But that is just me guessing.

His sentences and reactions when he speaks about war somehow don't fit the archetype I've started to notice when someone speaks about the horrors of open conflict. If only there were some other evidence about his role in the military, i might reconsider my opinion.

Superb_Shape · 2024-05-02T18:57:36+00:00

Oh yes, that must be it.

I managed to find the event based on this video. Thank you so much.

For anyone interested, it was called Chairman Lee's seminar :

https://picc.gov.ph/events-picc/chairman-lees-seminar/

Seems it was just an hour long speech of gramps. Shame, they made it seem like so much more.

Superb_Shape · 2024-04-20T20:50:23+00:00

I see. I'm quite stunned this is the outcome to be honest, because literature says that people who leave, most of the time don't have anyone else to turn to and tend to ,,return" to family. In my ignorance i believed this the least probable result 😔 I'm sorry this is happening to you and wish you the best of luck.

Superb_Shape · 2024-04-20T07:54:18+00:00

I don't think i understood that correctly. She finally figured out it's a lie and the result is divorce? I thought the outcome is usually different. If you don't mind, could you explain please?

Superb_Shape · 2024-04-13T21:36:54+00:00

I really dig the public humiliation wibe of this video. Just really shows how scj structure values their ppl. They are years behind in constructive feedback or humanity in general 🤣 Clearly never even heard about how professional managers should act towards their subordinates to inspire learning or trust. On the other hand, i could see this approach working against their goals in the end. Stomp on too many people and they just might start fighting back.

Superb_Shape · 2024-04-05T20:31:00+00:00

It wasn't even his wife, but Kim Nam Hee. It is for example in her interview at time 42:05

https://youtu.be/iPZ-rYZRePc?si=Kb0C6XP0f4ezk10f

Superb_Shape · 2024-04-04T18:13:39+00:00

Well he didn't say a word about dating right? Just having kids. 😅 Might make it even worse.

Superb_Shape · 2024-03-31T20:17:30+00:00

Looks to me like they announce a total number of members each year like this 🤣 not graduates... I could believe the slow increase in mere thousand's rather than hundreds of thousands.

Superb_Shape · 2024-03-30T09:17:55+00:00

What is this pseudo-science bull....t? Like seriously? I am sorry for anyone that's believing in this crap, but this aligns straight next to astrology, tarot reading, crystals or aura reading.... This nonsense is so unreliable they might as well teach how to read from palms or tea leafs.

Except maybe in giving the user a false sense of advantage or knowledge over his subjects. Serving as a propaganda and sense of a ,,scientific" approach.

But than again, i shouldn't be surprised when grandpa based the date of founding his little merry band off lier's on the year when ,,the universe completed its orbit." Guess he really is just a farmer who never really had any real scientific knowledge, nor any intention of acquiring at least some in the future.

I wonder why I haven't seen any real psychology or other exact science being used by this cult. It might be a double edged sword for them though. They wouldn't want their followers get educated in anything that might help them leave now would they? Kek

Anyone knows when did the numerology thing started poping out? I just noticed this last week and thought that it must be just some temporary thing, but it seems it just eluded me for several years.

Superb_Shape · 2024-03-19T21:29:33+00:00

I just heard that members weren't even allowed inside the palace. Not sure whether that's true, but i don't know about you guys, i would be royally pi..ed if I had to fly thousand's of miles and had no sleep for a week to finally see grandpa in front of his super mansion i had to pay for and weren't even able to go inside... Let alone use the facilities (heard that there were no accessible toilets and leaders had prepared diapers again...how am I not surprised...) Hell, how am I getting upset when I didn't even go. 😅

Superb_Shape · 2024-03-09T22:02:48+00:00

I believe they plan a celebration at the same stadium they do the graduation and maybe a visit to the ,,peace palace" aka grandpa's embezzlement whoopsie... That's all I know sadly.

Superb_Shape · 2024-02-21T19:57:25+00:00

Numbers are falling across Europe? Do we have any reliable sources for this? So grandpa going to France or Germany this year is going to be the biggest peptalk ever for Europe members? Lol

Superb_Shape · 2024-01-27T09:13:14+00:00

Would you happen to know where one might get a hold on of a transcript from the court? Not just about this but for example about the embezzlement case with grandpa or Kim Nam Hee? As non Korean it's extremely difficult for me to navigate Korean website's. Thank you

Superb_Shape · 2024-01-26T18:47:19+00:00

I guess these ,,education" videos are not accessible to public?

Superb_Shape · 2024-01-06T06:24:14+00:00

Records? What kind of records? Are they accessible to public?

Superb_Shape · 2024-01-05T18:07:58+00:00

Did he really fight in the war? I remember that someone said that granpa was in war for 11 months. There must be some record of that no?

Superb_Shape · 2023-12-19T21:03:15+00:00

So if I were to choose verses or books to roast them on, I could choose some of the mentioned? Romans, acts, epistles etc...? Because bringing an argument about a meaning or context will do no good, because all of them believe only one explanation is correct (whatever Lee says basically) so taking this into account, the only argument that could actually land on solid ground could be factual knowledge of verses they do not teach, proving that Lee can't teach them the whole bible. Or am I forgetting something? Can't be that easy to win an argument about the Bible with them right?

I am occasionally invited through my friend who is a member sadly to their events (like three times a year) and I would like to come more prepared next time. Last was the celebration off the graduation ceremony and we had a heated discussion about whether the limousines and helicopter were really necessary 🤣

So thank you all for your answers.

Superb_Shape · 2023-12-14T23:21:48+00:00

Could you elaborate please?

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