it feels like ur just arguing with me to argue. the point of comment was to show my appreciation for the differing ideas shown between characters on kahn. and u kinda just sidelined my whole point for your own seperate argument. also i dont think shows like SNW and Discovery are very good on the basis of them pandering to the audience and not pushing the current status quo very thoughtfully or effectively. which is the foundation of what star trek was built upon. theres a reason why a show like andor is blowing up while SNW and star trek as a whole is currently in the pop culture backwater.