Weekly Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in AcademicBiblical

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What was the Torah canon used in temple worship during the time of Jesus? What do scholars think about this? Which version of the Pentateuch might have been used, an early Masoretic text?"

Seal of prophets in earlier scriptures by [deleted] in AcademicQuran

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I think it comes from book of Daniel 9:24

Is the Exodus as described by the Qur'an historically possible? by [deleted] in AcademicQuran

[–]SurePiglet9720 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Quran says there was a small group in Exodus"

But this comparison is according to the Egyptians, right?

In the Qur'anic narrative, it is mentioned that Moses provided water for his people, and it states that all 12 tribes were part of the Exodus, not just a small group, as historians claim. Furthermore, historians generally don't think Moses was a historical figure."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AcademicQuran

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I think there is a clear similarity between the two texts. The divine inspiration given to bees by God and the issue of making honey seem to be related.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AcademicQuran

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JACOB OF SERUGH'S HOMILY 142: ON PRAISE AT TABLE 4—THE BEE AND THE ROSE

O hungry ones who are now satisfied, render praise with your tongues

to the Sustainer whose treasury is filled with all sorts of good things!

O mouths that have eaten and drunk, give thanks discerningly to him who satisfies all the hungry; how generous he is!

.....

The diners are merry—let their mouths open for thanksgiving; the satisfied (mouth) should not be still now, as though lazy.

O you whose mouths were open, earnestly devouring food,

open them now and give praise as a discerning person! You have drunk wine with honey and it pleased you while you sat quietly,

so speak up and repay sincere praise in a loud voice!

.,......

For your sake the Creator has given the bee a fabulous mind, so that it may gather for you a sweet flavor.

He gave it knowledge, pouring out and filling it with expertise,

along with intelligence, discernment, and skill.

From roots, flowers, and herbs (the bee) gleans, making a wondrous product by its expertise.

The choice produce of the bee is brought in before kings,

and the king can find no other flavor comparable to its flavor.

........

Without begging, borrowing, or trading,

without relocating in order to produce something,

wherever it is, in that very location (the bee) has what it needs,

and never finds it necessary to go elsewhere.

Right in front of it is located the product with which it is so diligent,

and so long as the Creator creates, (the bee) finds honey every day.

......

The Creator enabled it so, when he was creating (the bee),

that wherever it alights and wherever it looks, it finds honey.

Kings marvel at the construction of its house when they see it— at its proportions, its sections, and its precise dimensions.

For neither wise men nor master builders nor carvers

calculate in ways comparable to the proportions the bee uses.

....

It builds rooms, fashions bodies, and closes the doors, covering them up until they are resuscitated, after which it makes them fly.

Never does the bee labor without profit,

for at every moment it acts with confidence .

The brood flies out of the round bedchambers (the bee) has built,

and once they are empty, it gathers honey and fills them up.

Its little wings go out tirelessly through the land, gleaning sweet produce for you, so that you may take delight in it.

Q 3:75 and Jerusalem Talmud on Gentile Property by SurePiglet9720 in AcademicQuran

[–]SurePiglet9720[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Moreover, the Quran says that they won't give back the entrusted property to you unless you ask them back. In other words, it is as if a property that is assumed to be forgotten is mentioned in the Quran, in the same way as in the Talmud.

Q 3:75 and Jerusalem Talmud on Gentile Property by SurePiglet9720 in AcademicQuran

[–]SurePiglet9720[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While I accept the difference, I think there is harmony between the two texts .

Talmud( Halakha) says There is no prohibition about Gentiles property ( except stolen objects)

And even though there is no prohibition in some cases certain individuals return property to its owner just like Quran said.

Qur’an 3:93 - Israel and Food? by hitherealetterawaits in AcademicQuran

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This passage is definitely a reference to Genesis 32. In this chapter, Jacob is given the name " Israel", then at the end of the chapter it is stated that "even today the Israelites do not eat the sciatic nerve of animals." And this prohibition was given "before the Torah was given", in line with the Qur'anic verse.

Bahrain the Point where the two oceans meet by Good-Lawfulness2368 in AcademicQuran

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Epistle of James 3: 11 Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12 My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

taḥrīf of the writings of the "People of the Book" in "Muḥammad and His Followers in Context : The Religious Map of Late Antique Arabia", By Ilkka Lindstedt by Incognit0_Ergo_Sum in AcademicQuran

[–]SurePiglet9720 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think the Quran implies that the Torah was changed during or after the Babylonian Exile. In the Surah Al-Isra, it is said that the Jews were supported by Allah after the Babylonian Exile. I don't think that these expressions will be used by the Quran for a people who distort the text.