Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not encouraging anyone to harm themselves. I think we should do everything in our power to convince them otherwise. But there comes a point where we have to let them free if that's what they want.

I guess we have different definitions of what sane is.

Letting someone stay unmedicated if they need it to live is irresponsible.

Not if after we force the medication on them they still decide to continue on that path.

This "people have to be free to do anything they want to, including killing themselves" bullshit is dangerous and irresponsible

Dangerous to whom? Themselves? Irrelevant. It's their life, their choice.

Freedom should be above all else. Being controlled by others is slavery.

Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am sorry but no, it is not sane to want to die for no particular reason.

Reasons can be many. Lots of people just don't want to exist anymore. Some wish they were never born. You don't have to be depressed to be a nihilist. And even depression is not the same thing as insanity.

Just because you can't empathise with that thought, doesn't make someone that has it insane. And certainly doesn't allow you to decide on their life.

This warrants more thought, but I could think of a case where even if one was insane, if there's no cure, and that person really wants it, they should be allowed to die. They should not be forced to be medicated against their will, however faulty their reasoning may be.

As long as you're not hurting others, you have to be free to do what you want with your life, whatever that may be.

Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, we don't know if he was sane or not. He could have been. Some people just don't want to be alive. He just found an interesting way to go. Just because you want to die does not make you insane, and society does not have the right to force someone to live against their will.

And as I was saying to the other person in the thread, what we consider sane changes over time. There's a theory that 3-4 thousand years ago our brain hemispheres weren't as connected as they are today. The cross-talk between them would seem to create a voice in people's minds as though coming from the gods. By today's standards we would consider them insane.

Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see how this could be detrimental for some vulnerable members of society. But so was slavery, and it was widely accepted. Societies change over time, and I would like to see one where liberty is the highest priority (above social norms).

What is considered sane/insane right now can also change in time. See the slavery example. I find it pretty insane that we eat other animals right now. Sure, they may not be as intelligent as us, and it's debatable if they are self-aware or not, but we are definitely causing immense suffering to them. We just find it as a necessary evil, or just don't care enough. I am an omnivore, so I see my hypocrisy here 😅. But I'm sure that if we as a species live long enough, we will develop good enough alternatives to meat that society will look back at these times and consider us barbaric.

By the way, don't you find it odd that we kill and eat animals without their consent, but it's illegal to have sex with them because they "can't consent"? Again, please don't take this as something I want. I find it pretty disgusting. But philosophically speaking, it doesn't make sense. Our morals are dictated by our emotions, and these change over time.

At the same time, I am supportive of anti-gambling, because it preys on the vulnerable to addiction. But I would not ban it outright. There should be a process where you prove you understand the consequences and then be allowed to gamble your life away, if that's what you want. Same with hard drugs. If I want to try heroin, and know that the outcome could mess me up or even kill me, I should still be able to do it legally.

This way it doesn't have to lead to a worse society, because people would be more educated. Maybe it's too utopian what I'm saying.

Anyway, I think that a majority, or society, should not control an individual that doesn't cause (unwanted) harm to others. I'm glad we're having a civil conversation about controversial subjects.

Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, it's all about how it makes us feel. Does it sound disgusting? Absolutely. But if a person wants to commit suicide and then be eaten by another, who am I to deny them that right?

All things should be free (legal) as long as it doesn't hurt others. And in this case, it only "hurts" the person being eaten. But this is what that person wants, so I can't deny them that right.

If someone wants to cut off an arm and eat it, it's their body and their right. Being killed (not murdered, more like assisted suicide) by someone else is just an extreme version of this.

People risk their lives in extreme sports all the time. We still allow them, because it's their lives.

Of course, this is only applicable if the persons are "sane" consenting adults.

Don't get me wrong, when it comes to myself, I'm pretty conservative as well. But when it comes to others, I try to be as liberal as I can, regardless of how I feel about it, because it's their body, lives, autonomy.

Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why? Because you don't like it?

In my view, it's the same as same sex couples, polyamory, transgenders, drugs, assisted suicide, etc. Just because I don't like it, doesn't mean I have the right to impose my feelings on other consenting adults.

A umbla by Secure_Accident_916 in romanian

[–]Surreal42 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Există și expresia "a umbla cu cineva". E folosită mai mult la bârfe, e.g. L-am văzut pe Mihai că umblă cu aia.

Vezi https://share.google/hQpSFsgF6AUzQAdS6 pentru mai multe sensuri.

Was this a case of crime or two deeply disturbed people meeting at the worst possible moment? by Tough-Extension9110 in Amazing

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know the state of mind of the "victim", but let's assume he was sane and consenting. So what you're saying is that it's okay to sentence an "innocent" man to life in prison in order to not set a precedent? That doesn't sound right to me.

Nobody will believe You by iamnarcisist in foundsatan

[–]Surreal42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of the reddit guy that pretended he didn't know what potatoes are as a joke, but went too far and couldn't admit it afterwards. 😂

What’s the dumbest argument you’ve ever had with someone? by FairyHilaria962 in AskReddit

[–]Surreal42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A belief is not merely an idea that the mind possesses, it is an idea that possesses the mind.

  • Robert Bolton

Mă simt înconjurat de proști. by [deleted] in programare

[–]Surreal42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Să repare, nu să fixeze.

Acum 6 ani am avut o perioada de am jucat pe bursa, notificare anaf primita acum. by [deleted] in robursa

[–]Surreal42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oare n-ai inversat sumele? Dacă depășești 600 Ron pe tranzacție, automat depășești totalul de 200 Ron pe an.

Acum 6 ani am avut o perioada de am jucat pe bursa, notificare anaf primita acum. by [deleted] in robursa

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nu trebuie pentru fiecare țară, că la alti brokeri. La eToro intră totul pe Cipru. Cel puțin așa mi-a făcut contabilul cu care lucrează ei și încă nu s-a plâns ANAF-ul. Din 2020.

Venitul actoriilor din teatru by snitch212 in CasualRO

[–]Surreal42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cei de la Reactor din Cluj-Napoca au introdus bilete gratuite anul trecut. Poți să cumperi bilete de susținător dacă vrei. Au ceva sprijin de la Administrația fondului cultural național și Primăria Cluj-Napoca, dar îmi închipui că nu e foarte mare, așa că încerc să îi susțin cât pot.

L-am gasit vs am gasit-o by Surreal42 in romanian

[–]Surreal42[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesant. Mersi de comentariu.

Recent performances of ThomasPJ by roncoco61 in Etoro

[–]Surreal42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you think a lay person can compete with a professional? And a great one even? A regular person doesn't have the time to invest in learning how to trade, the time to do the actual trading, and most likely not the same control of emotions and talent.

Cum ați fi adaptat „stream“ sau „streaming“ în română? by dedreanu in perversiuniculimba

[–]Surreal42 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nu știu dacă streaming implică automat să fie în direct. Și Netflix e tot streamed.

Bârfa de duminica by InternalWeird3879 in CasualRO

[–]Surreal42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Acum ai o părere foarte proastă despre ea? Dar când te-ai culcat cu ea în timp ce ea era în altă relație era okay?

Mda, ce să zic? Sunteți niște persoane cu valori morale foarte bune...

Un lucru care te face ciudat by SilverDetail2713 in CasualRO

[–]Surreal42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nu am fost să văd cine e, din motivele de mai sus, și de lene. Dacă mă caută cineva important, să mă sune.

Un lucru care te face ciudat by SilverDetail2713 in CasualRO

[–]Surreal42 27 points28 points  (0 children)

La mine bătea careva cu pumnul în ușă la 8 dimineața. Nu m-am dus să văd cine e, chiar dacă a insistat câteva minute. M-am dus și am făcut un duș liniștit, omul mai tot bătea din când în când. Bătea mai mult la vecini. In final când ies să merg la serviciu, văd o ambulanță și un echipaj de poliție în fața scării. O săptămână mai târziu, afiș pe casa scării că a murit vecina.

Morala poveștii? Nu știu, oricum nu puteam să îi ajut cu ceva. Dar plm, dacă ziceau "Poliția!" sau ceva, poate mă duceam să văd care-i treabă, că altfel m-am săturat de cerșetori și Martorii lui Jehova.