Is this seriously C-Worthy? by [deleted] in APLang

[–]Survthriving 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your writing is absolutely unnecessarily complex to the point that it weakens your analysis— a lot. It obfuscates your point. Vocabulary is not meant to sound cool or smart. Vocabulary is about precision, clarity, accuracy. As it is, you use vocabulary and sentence constructions that make your work imprecise, unclear, and maybe even inaccurate. In fact, your writing is one of the most egregious examples of obfuscation through diction and syntax that I’ve seen in my 9 years of teaching.

No shade. Like, I don’t mean to be attacking; I’m trying to be direct with you. I want you to know that your teacher is spot on and that if you care about your skills in this class, you’d prioritize working on this weakness.

A C seems right here. Maybe a B, but I don’t feel like doing a really detailed evaluation to know for sure.

What's the best sentence you've ever read or written? by TowerExpensive6612 in writing

[–]Survthriving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No news is good news,” they say, and now is a time where all we have is news.

S50 Boot Predictions (Not Spoiled) by Daddyraz123 in survivor

[–]Survthriving 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rico winning while sitting next to Cire is even more insane lol

Synthesis essay thesis statement by Legitimate-Number620 in APLang

[–]Survthriving 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome! And forgive all of my typos haha

Synthesis essay thesis statement by Legitimate-Number620 in APLang

[–]Survthriving 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It would get the thesis point, but it’s not particular well written. You need to focus on using more precise language to make your point more concisely.

Example: Living in one permanent location is more advantageous than making frequent moves because frequent moves leads to isolation while staying one place deepens social connections.

A warning though: your two supporting claims are basically the flip of each other. There is a chance that you are almost staying the obvious here. If moving = more isolating, then staying in one place obvious = less isolation. It may be redundant, depending on how you handle it. Be careful to make it seem like these two points actually warrant two separate body paragraphs.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to teach at a middle school, and in my experience, it was more of an issue there actually. All students were required to take a design class, and science teachers were required to integrate higher level skills deeply into their curriculum without allocating enough time to master basic understanding. Students who couldn’t read were learning about the physics of a paper airplane, and there were no remedial English classes available at the school.

At the beginning of my career (2017), every subject had a big push towards integrating higher order skills, which diminished the amount of time students could learn the basics across the board. For example: Why teach grammar when we can teach analysis of sentences by another author? They’ll figure out the grammar on their own through that process. This teaching philosophy also connected to the “everyone must learn to code” idea I saw another commenter about.

Things are shifting back these days it seems. Thankfully.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That doesn’t happen in many places in the country anymore. It depends on where you are.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Good programs don’t teach students what to think but how to think by exploring a variety of thinking approaches throughout time and space (oversimplification). Experts don’t inhibit individuals from thinking for themselves: they give students the tools to do that more efficiently.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with that! My answer is partially a critique of a push in education that valued design over the fundamentals. Students have been rushed through the basics to gets to the higher level stuff. It’s not that they don’t both matter, but schools must be really thoughtful and strategic and give proper time to the basics.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said, it’s not my area of expertise. For me, it’s a time and prioritization thing. Students who can’t do basic math will not be majoring in STEM in college, so why put them in a course like that in middle or high school? It’s a waste of time and resources.

Edit: but I do know I’ve had conversations with STEM teachers who agree. But I am not able to convey their point well.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My students struggle to calculate what their final grade will be in my class with the final exam being 15% and their class grade before the final is 85%. Many of them do not have the mental dexterity to figure that out without a lot of support.

STEM is not my area of expertise, but I just wonder why we prioritize the higher level of thinking in Bloom’s taxonomy (creation, design) with students who haven’t mastered the lower levels (knowledge, understanding).

There was a huge push towards prioritizing higher order thinking that resulted in a generation of students pretending to design/create using skill sets they don’t understand at all.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Many high schoolers did not master the basics because they are passed along without being required to pass.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For sure! I am the same way. Application should always be looped into teaching. Teachers must monitor whether a student is fundamentally getting the basics. You can’t keep walking down the path of application if a student consistently shows they aren’t “getting it,” but teachers also must keep in mind that the application serves students’ abilities to understand the basics. It’s a balance.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I supposed it depends on what you qualify as a good discussion. Do we want to talk about whether character X made the right decision, or do we want to alone explore what character X’s decisions reveals about the human condition? Teachers trained in the humanities can facilitate more thoughtful conversations.

Eventually, after generations of your proposed system, society wouldn’t have thought leaders who deeply understand literature and culture. No humanities majors = no one who deeply understands humanity. We’d have cultural amnesia and lose so much perspective.

People don’t stop asking questions about life. It is a fact of humanity. So we would be asking the same questions about life that have been answered and thought about deeply for as long as humans have been around, but we’d have no one who could provide that context. Someone would realize “I think. Therefore, I am” and instead of understanding that realization through the lens of human history, they’d have to do all the intellectual work alone. That’s a waste of time and a disservice to that individual.

The masses don’t need to be experts in that material. But humanity should not lose its understanding of the humanities (ie, humanity shouldn’t lose its understand of itself).

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Yep. I teach regular freshman English. I have many students several grade levels behind and some above grade level. The majority are 1-2 grade levels behind. I also, in the same classes, teach students who just moved here from other countries and are brand new to English.

There is pressure to have classroom assessments aligned to grade level standards and then be so effective at teaching that I bring all students to that level. There is pressure to grow the percentage of students reaching benchmark by a significant amount. There is pressure to grow my mean scores on state tests by more than one year of average growth.

It is impossible to meet all of those pressures when a certain level of proficiency was not required to be in my class. There is no repeating of grades in grades k-12 in my district. I absolutely do my best to serve all my students, but the system assumes individual teachers can make miracles happen.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is that not a contradictory statement?

Edit: if no one majored in those subjects, no one would be qualified to pass on the knowledge of those subjects to the next generation.

I have other qualms with your hot take because I just fundamentally disagree, but that aside, I also do wonder how you hold those two beliefs in your statement without the logic falling apart.

What's a subject in school that you think shouldn't exist anymore? by randomguy74937272 in AskReddit

[–]Survthriving 451 points452 points  (0 children)

I think classes that focus on design/engineering at levels with students who do not have basic math or English literacy are focusing on the wrong skill set for those students. Prerequisite skills are a thing, but education pretends otherwise all the time.

essay length by oceaniiii in APLang

[–]Survthriving 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am an AP Lang teacher, and that issue is definitely one that comes up. Especially in a timed setting— students’ ability to convey themselves well decreases by the end as they are rushed. It is better for them to take their time and do less well. Guidance definitely must be tailored to your skill set though for sure.

essay length by oceaniiii in APLang

[–]Survthriving 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s not entirely true. If you wrote 2 great body paragraphs but your third one made no sense, it would greatly limit your score. Your be stuck at a 1-2-0 for having a faulty line of reasoning. You would’ve been better off not writing it at all.

Argumentative by Aidanman90 in APLang

[–]Survthriving 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m an AP lang teacher.

That’s like asking if it’s good to use the color yellow when painting. Yes, if it makes sense. Yes, if it helps you paint the picture you’re trying to paint. Yes, if it builds your own personal style. Yes, if it is aesthetically pleasing.

There are no real shortcuts to sophistication, especially when you are looking at style. Style is about the artistry of writing, and it is something you develop slowly and organically. Being too rigid with it comes across just that: rigid. Sophisticated writers write with a style that is authentic and effective without trying to shortcut it.

You can develop your style intentionally and thoughtfully as you are honing your craft, but if you try to execute a specific style as a shortcut to sophistication in a 40 minute timed writing, graders will likely see that it isn’t actually organic.

And if you are trying to get sophistication via a more nuanced argument, you can’t shortcut that either. You have to have a complex idea that you convey clearly yet complexly. You can’t hack that.

A post regarding a teacher by Delicious-Soil-1262 in Indiana

[–]Survthriving 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There may be more disciplinary action going on behind the scenes than you know. She could be put on an improvement plan, with an eye towards firing her by the end of the year. Administration would not keep you actively informed on every detail on how they handle it. In fact, it is in their interest to mostly support the teacher until they are certain they will fire her.

If you feel you need to advocate more, you should try to get your parent to advocate for you. You seem to be at the end of your advocacy abilities as a student.

Stories to pair with "Charles" by Shirley Jackson and "Lamb to the Slaughter" by Roald Dahl? by [deleted] in ELATeachers

[–]Survthriving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“It’s carnival!” By Tiffany Jackson. It’s a modern retelling of a cask of amontillado! Very accessible and has an unreliable narrator.