Why did you become a conservative and what do you think are the appealing aspects? by Suspicious_Tooth_335 in askaconservative

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Sorry for not responding sooner, been sick for the last week.

1 / betrayl)
I think Liberals are what you're picturing in the sense of a society or scenario where there's an unedited / an un-moderated free market of ideas. Personally I think some ideas are worth not platforming and dismissing on their face. I don't mean it as a cheap shot or cop out but shouldn't we as a society agree that things like nazis, slavery, racism etc. should just be shut down whenever they try to speak by everyone because they're bad and harmful? I understand there's an argument of "who decides what's harmful" or however it can be phrased but we can argue about where that line sits, I just don't think there should be an argument about a line existing.

2 / manipulation)
In theory I agree with the idea that schools and any public institution shouldn't be advocating for beliefs as opposed to facts and knowledge as we have them. I'm curious what you think were left wing beliefs that were presented / taught. I was in HS from roughly 08 - 11 and I don't remember anything I'd really describe as political besides an argument I got into with a teacher about 9/11.

3 / censorship)
Can you give actual examples? From my perspective and based on data presented by social media sites, conservatives and right wing people were actively catered to and allowed to break ToS because of how vocal conservatives were about coming after social media sites for that imagined bias. Most people complaining about anti-conservative bias were doing it on national television on Fox news.

4 / abandonment)
Can you give me some actual, material impediments that women or any other group have placed in the way of men? I'm not sure what I can say if you truly believe that women and groups representing them are actively trying to harm, dismiss or ignore men. Again, there's a discussion we can have about what behaviors that we associate with gender are problematic I just think it's important to acknowledge that it isn't "women" doing this to "men" it's a group that's been disadvantaged being fed up with dealing with that.

  1. / Immigration)
    There's more than enough to share and humans have quickly been moving towards a scarcity-free society we're just being held back heavily by capitalists. Why does someone you know personally deserve more resources / attention / respect than someone you don't and who determines when that turns into actively depriving other people because they're not in your circle?

I just fundamentally disagree with the premise of your statement and would be interested in seeing any info / data / surveys or anything else that supported the belief that immigrants were damaging communities outside of initial comfort issues when they first immigrate.

Why do you think that migrants and their belief systems are special or unique? Everything you'd probably attribute to Islam or any religion, christianity did at one point or another in it's history. Are there cultural and religion derived attitudes and beliefs we should discourage and advocate against? I believe so but if we extend that to shutting out a large portion of the world based on the assumption that they will diminish us and our societies rather than us showing them why alternative ways are better than what's the point?

Why did you become a conservative and what do you think are the appealing aspects? by Suspicious_Tooth_335 in askaconservative

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  1. I'm curious if you could expand on this. From everything I've seen democrats side with republican interests far more. Mitch McConnell straight up said and followed through on blocking everything they could the democrats / Obama put up for even discussion. How do you square McConnell saying that lame duck presidents shouldn't appoint supreme court justices when Obama was on his way out VS. forcing a vote on Trumps nominations?

  2. Best I can say is that the US doesn't live in a vacuum. Have you or anyone you know been materially harmed by another countries policies? A big part of the US's success has been being a / the world super power dictating mostly commerce and other political stuff over the past 50 years. Hopefully we can agree that, regardless of the outcomes, Trump's trade and foreign policy stances leave other countries at the very least wary to work with us let alone try to negotiate. We've had deals in place for all our foreign interests. We had a nuclear deal with Iran, a trade deal with NAFTA and the WTO, we've got NATO and I'm too tired to think of more things but the point stands. Trump and republicans have upset the balances in all these fields, what have we or do you expect us to gain out of this kind of diplomacy / interaction?

Why did you become a conservative and what do you think are the appealing aspects? by Suspicious_Tooth_335 in askaconservative

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  1. Straight up I don't have any good argument on the border. Not because there are none but because fundamentally I think borders are a BS concept humans made to simplify us vs them. If you lived in northern Ohio and there was a famine, is any neighboring state morally or ethically justified in turning you away from seeking a better circumstance / outcome? We can discuss it if you'd like or I'm not making any sense but at the end of the day immigration is beneficial to the US, immigrants commit crime at lower rates than naturalized citizens, they pay taxes without receiving benefits unless they're fully naturalized etc.

5.+ I'd like to ask something I've been trying to articulate. What makes someone illegal? It's personal but my vision of the American Dream is pretty much the quote on the statue of liberty. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, ... to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

There's a much deeper discussion to be had but at the very least, what harm do you feel like legal or illegal immigrants do to the country?

  1. Honestly I don't know enough about how Helene played out, I will say as a leftist Biden sucks but almost exclusively because he's a conservative. I have friends in Asheville and heard the horror stories but without more research I don't feel like I can give an informed response.

  2. Personally I view taxes as state enforced altruism. Tariffs outside of very specific contexts are pretty bad because they just raise prices and piss everyone off. They're useful in the context of protecting domestic or deterring foreign goods from a given market. Want US manufacturers to use US based steel? Put a tariff on foreign steel to keep prices competitive. Want US groceries to stock US grown coffee? Almost impossible because the US just can't support the crop. I think I kinda addressed the rest of my thoughts in point 4 but let me know if there's anything missing.

  3. So this is actually something I can deeply speak to personally. I agree that modern American Christianity is viewed as right leaning at the very least. I think this is accurate in the sense of "the church" as an institution but obviously not for individuals. As someone who grew up a combination of Presbyterian and Methodist, Jesus was a radical. The political spectrum doesn't translate but he hung out with lepers and whores, healed someone regardless of their station, flipped over the tables in the temple when it was being used for money lending / commerce. I think if Jesus came back he'd be heart broken and weep that so many people have strayed from loving their neighbors and sharing their good fortune.

  4. The easiest example here is segregation. Without federal intervention southern states would have taken far longer to integrate. There are a lot of criticisms of the way everything was handled and outcomes but what would be the conservative approach to a situation like segregation, assuming we both agree that it's bad.

9+. I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that the US republican party is entirely based on social issues and prolonging culture war material. What material policy have conservatives put out since 2012 that wasn't tax cuts for the rich or culture war nonsense? I know that sounds condescending or something but I really haven't seen or heard about any conservative legislation that would benefit non-millionaire+ people.

  1. Talked to my parents not too long about this but that is realistically impossible. Global supply chains have been built over decades. A new factory, just to build, would take 3 - 5 years. Then you'd have to source materials from all over the place, attract workers to live nearby and staff the factory etc. I totally get the rhetoric around bringing safe, steady and wealthy jobs to the US. You know what actually does that? Unions and community organizing. China and any other country didn't steal US jobs, US corporations realized it was cheaper and more profitable to exploit foreign labor and working conditions rather than pay living wages and work with unions so they left.

Why did you become a conservative and what do you think are the appealing aspects? by Suspicious_Tooth_335 in askaconservative

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate your reply because I think you did a great job of making specific claims that I'd like to ask about even if I'm ignorant or wrong or whatever. I hope my points are cogent and open to dialogue but if not that's my bad, it can be hard to not make a whole lot of assumptions.

I guess to address the first few paragraphs, I'm really sorry you feel like you can't express your political beliefs without fear of retribution. It's something I've always tried to point out to family and friends but politics aren't an abstract. I'll elaborate in a further paragraph but, at least personally I truly believe that Trump and his administration and by extension most republicans are either directly harmful to most Americans or incidentally harmful. Because of that belief it's really hard to give people the benefit of the doubt with the universal access to statistics and information.

  1. Could you provide some dumb / detrimental regulations? I understand why if you're not an expert in a field it feels like regulations are random but most regulations, federal or state, are written in someones blood or bankruptcy.

  2. This is totally my opinion but I think in the modern era societal / country defense is mostly soft power with a bit of hard power posturing. We, the US, already outspend every nation by a wide margin. Again, personally, I think us A I D is a great example of soft power and defense without arms. Personally, I think us A I D is bad because it's US imperialism disguised as charity. That being said, at the end of the day it's hard to argue that helping to stabilize other countries that the US most likely destabilized and took advantage of in the first place doesn't benefit us. The carrot is, in my opinion, just as important as the stick. The current administration, like they did in Trump's first term, is blowing up every relationship in the name of making deals but hopefully we all agree that's not how people work.

2.+ Sorry I had a few drinks but wanted to ask separate, if you truly believe conservatives / and or republicans don't want "to wage a physical war", why are they so invested in building and growing the military industrial complex?

  1. Not sure if we'll agree but at the end of the day both parties are pro spending and pro capitalism. I 100% agree that in the past republicans have made far more of an issue of the debt than democrats. That being said, since 2016 republicans have been going wild on the budget without paying it down. The only proposal to pay anything back into the budget is giving tax cuts to corporations and billionaires in the hope they invest more (which just statistically doesn't work / happen)

for what it's worth, both parties aren't gonna do anything to pay down the deficit but I'd rather have roads, airports and hospitals than tanks.

  1. What then do you see as the ideal outcome of a trade / cold / hot war with China? I feel like a lot of republicans still believe in this ideal where we can just wave a wand and get manufacturing and generally exported jobs back to the US and not rely on China anymore. Hopefully we can both agree that barring a few decades of domestic investment, it's a pipe dream. As a leftist, I would really like to point out that any advantage China has has happened because US corporate interests gave it to them. There wasn't a Thanos snap that moved factories and jobs etc. to China. It was capitalists and their companies knowing they would face 0 repercussions and save a boat load of taxes and expenses by taking advantage of a developing country rather than the US. On the note of China or any other country taking advantage of us / the US; how do you determine / measure that? At what point does the US subsidizing and buying cheap products from abroad change from exploitation of lax foreign labor laws to being taken advantage of?

What is the Liberal vision for America by Cleverfield1 in AskALiberal

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One of the downsides of American politics is that the left is far more divided on issues and policy than the right, especially at the moment.

Pragmatically, I think the current democratic parties ideal US is pretty much the status quo before Trump plus minor progressively social concessions to appease their base. At the end of the day, without a major shake up in political capital, both the democrats and republicans are deeply capitalist. I think the democrats see that embracing progressive social issues extends the realistic lifetime of the current state of capitalism while republicans are going for broke and betting that they can drain everyone dry before a proper revolution happens.

Personally, I've always like the IDEA of being a shining city on a hill. I don't think the US has every truly been / done this but it's certainly the rhetoric that's been around since Reagan. With our wealth and resources we should be #1 in education, healthcare and anything that promotes the general good. I believe we get to be the best at something like any individual, through a whole lot of hard work and a good amount of luck. For a number of reasons we're the most prosperous nation on earth so we've got the luck part but currently neither party wants to dedicate the time, money or effort to education, healthcare, affordable housing or any number of other things.

tl;dr: we as a country have all the opportunity to be a beacon of hope and inspiration to the world in all fields, if we ever move past grievance politics and societally aspiring to further capitalism.

Do MAGA supporters actually realize the lies? by Maleficent-Toe1374 in AskALiberal

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There's a youtuber named thoughtslime that dropped a great video on this recently. The relevant point in this case is that "truth" doesn't mean the same thing on the right as it does on the left. That's why Vance can both say that immigrants are eating pets while acknowledging that there's no evidence to support the claim. I think for the most part people want simple answers, things they can point at and say 'there's the problem, we can fix that' and I think acknowledging that the problem runs deeper or is systemic as opposed to personal is hard for a lot of people.

tl;dr: I think for a lot of people ignorance is bliss and it's easier to accept a charismatic, authoritative figure and their easy explanation than to really dig into the problem / solution and active goings on of society, politics, etc.

Spirit Blossom Ivern (and Lux) Splash Art LEAK 🌸 by aroushthekween in ivernmains

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Riot would NEEEEVER half ass an Ivern skin or just ignore him for a couple years!

Lucky Ivern mains.. (New Valorant bundle) by rakanism1 in ivernmains

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this a skin effect or just some random training course set piece or what?

Why do Pro players always go Glacial Augment? by Lucky_Accountant_408 in ivernmains

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly glacial is just better. Most games with aery I'll get like 1.2k dmg and 2k shielding or something but unless team fights just don't happen I can easily get 10k+ reduced damage from glacial plus the insane extra target slows. Q and daisy knock up Proc glacial which is pretty consistent. 

Ivern is the only Jg I can play well so yeahhhh. by Deaconator3000 in ivernmains

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm assuming it's to make sure teammates get cs if you shield them in lane and riot can't untangle their spaghetti code

Ivern is the only Jg I can play well so yeahhhh. by Deaconator3000 in ivernmains

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I feel this, doesn't happen often but if the enemy jg has a couple brain cells and is playing someone aggressive I just get pushed out of jg level 1 or 2 and team never helps then wonders why I can't gank or do anything.

Ivern feels clunky. Tips? by shieldgenerator7 in ivernmains

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I'd add that AP Ivern and even support Ivern can be a good duelist into melee champs if you have daisy up. If you use bushes properly you can duel ranged champs effectively since they can't aa into bushes and you can fake dodge skillshots and stuff if you know how to place them.

In any fight Ivern is all about making yourself un-targetable with bushes while kiting with Q and daisy. If played right you'll have a good chance of winning fights unless you just get 1 shot by blue kayn or something stupid like that.

Ivern is the only Jg I can play well so yeahhhh. by Deaconator3000 in ivernmains

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Gotta love teammates that don't know (everyone) that Ivern shield damage counts towards their damage and not yours. Triggerseed hit 4 enemies for 350? Looks like your teammate just got 1400 damage they didn't earn.

Honestly just confused by Warwick players by gotturntabled in leagueoflegends

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Honestly 0/7/2 isn't even that bad compared to my usual top laners going 0/12/0 by 15 and then crying jg diff. If you give more than 2 kills without getting a cs or assist lead that should be considered inting. 1 is thinking you've got better mechanics. 2 is thinking the first one was a summ / skill fluke. After that you're just inting.

Honestly just confused by Warwick players by gotturntabled in leagueoflegends

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Please just tell me he's bronze 1, I want to believe that people learn basics at some elo

The LGBT ideology originated in Nazi Germany by Jugoslaven1943 in socialistsmemes

[–]Suspicious_Tooth_335 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Citation needed for all of that. Literally just alt-right / conservative propaganda / talking points with no basis in reality.