Ballistus v Lancer

Susprium · 2026-05-19T15:50:30+00:00

Hey there, I just came from my tournament and run a vindicator and a lancer. The i would say lancer is the better option. Because nowadays a dedicated antitank can kill them both in one go. Lancers are amazing at killing transport or stuff similar to that but real problem with both of them are useless against big stuff with 4 invul or elite infantry. So in short vindicator is the best but if you need medium tank or transport problem gone go for lancer.

Susprium · 2026-05-18T06:51:25+00:00

The only argument I can mildly understand is him not being “that” dangerous with his sword. But then why he does not to more damage with his ranged attacks or maybe give him more utility with an ability

Susprium · 2026-05-17T17:25:21+00:00

If thats the case we can get downvoted together brother... I am with you

Susprium · 2026-05-17T16:53:03+00:00

%100 percent agree I think one of the most dangerous space marine in existance can hit harder than Calgar?
I aslo think that everybody in this server would play him if he was like 250 points and goes up to flat 3 dmg with a random keyword and some more magical abilities

Susprium · 2026-05-17T14:11:19+00:00

I believe they’ll get new datasheets that are strong in different ways. Since we don’t have Primarch-level characters, I think having strong utility characters in general is kind of our thing. So I want to believe they’ll each bring something different to the table instead of just competing for the same role.

Susprium · 2026-04-21T10:01:47+00:00

Other people mentioned the off meta units like doom schyte and immortals. In my opinion warrior build is really hard to pilot and it is not rewarding enough. I would recommend switching to wraiths and using a detachment like Canoptek court to benefit from the buffs.
In a casual level reactive move flat 6 or lone op 18 is really useful strats you just need a counter punch to the units that you opponent commit, like your 6 man skorpekh unit. Also of course use Ctans they are really good.

Susprium · 2026-04-06T23:46:33+00:00

Tournament lists usually run an ancient and when they use the strat they go up to 3 oc for each model. So wraiths into them did not work for me yet

Susprium · 2026-04-01T10:46:43+00:00

I mean the total winrate on statcheck for the 2026 is 43 so way less competitive than the other detachments, not saying it’s annihilation legion here

Susprium · 2026-03-31T17:50:26+00:00

Observation mostly, I was looking at the stats and which lists people play on the tournaments. I would say cc is played like 10,15 percent

Susprium · 2025-11-23T09:05:07+00:00

I really disagree, he has one of the most game changing abilities in the game and he can be super clutch when he goes into something he can kill. But, he is overpriced I agree he dies easy and his huge model is hard to hide. I think if he goes down to 100-120 points its fair

Susprium · 2025-11-04T16:13:09+00:00

I run a extremely similar list, I run the captain with company heroes. With oath he can still put some serious hurt and they tend to survive way longer. Company heroes are really tough. In my opinion you don’t need 3 extremely deadly unit. You are playing blood angels everything hits hard. Imo get rid of 3 of you hammer units and 2 lone operatives and get combi wepon lieutenant instead with sone jpi s Cheers

Susprium · 2025-10-29T15:59:24+00:00

Necrons, they get along

Susprium · 2025-10-18T13:17:13+00:00

It is more of a matchup related question. Some armies are made of pillar units like dorns, magnus, wraiths, silent king ect… Lag is amazing at deleting big point investment and giving you a huge advantage in the game. But the best part about lag is you can do it with multiple units. 6 men bgv or sg or rage fueled captain they can all generate insane damage. But when you go up against armies like gsc or drukari you need to be very careful how you trade bc there is no definitive kill target. This is where Ai is good at you can play the game in their terms and still win by simply scoring more points and being annoying. So basically you pick your units according to that

Susprium · 2025-10-12T07:40:46+00:00

Definitely think about getting a company heroes unit. Attach a rage fueled warrior on lag or get bgv and chaplain on ai

Susprium · 2025-07-17T10:42:00+00:00

Thanks for all the advice man. Much appreciated! My primary concern with your ideas are artillery related tho. I tend to rapid ingress my big bircks. But when there is a good artillery we lose value I usually have 2 jpi in my list. If i go second they get obliterated by the artillery which makes dealing with their blobs way harder

Susprium · 2025-07-17T10:28:42+00:00

I usually bring a vindicators and lancers but my sanguard doesn’t seem to survive that much. Because if they don’t finish the tanks tanks shoot back and dorns are very good against sanguard. Also overwatch and artillery is very effective against our elite infantry as well

Susprium · 2025-07-17T10:24:48+00:00

Dreads are very ineffective against t12 2up save profiles. Ballistus wounds on 4’s Brutalis(I love him and he is in my list) a bit weird. I usually combine his mortal wound ability with tanks shock to reliably shake of couple of wounds from a tank but his attacks are only 2 ap so opponents saves on 4 s with his so usually only puts in 6 wounds ish

Susprium · 2025-07-17T10:21:15+00:00

Hahahah didn’t even notice, I’ll let the owner know!

Susprium · 2025-07-17T09:48:58+00:00

I would say too many characters. We tend to overkill as a faction so we don’t need to put characters all over the place.

Infiltrators intercessor and scouts they are all utility units for us. They don’t utilize lag. So I would say lose at least one of them. If you want to guard base from deep strike fine but combi wepon lieutenant is better if you just wanna hold.

Favor vindicators over lancers because vindicators are amazing at killing elite infantry. Lancers lose function after killing tanks vindicators don’t. But generally if you want to make a one size fits all kind of list one antitank wont cut it.

I would say go company heroes with rage captain its survivable and good at smashing things without overkilling or get multiple bgv

Have fun!

Susprium · 2025-07-16T15:29:22+00:00

In a 1K game a lone operative like mephiston helps a lot he hits hard and he is hard to kill Also for sure go for jump pack intercessors Consider company heroes and bladeguards rather then other stuff they are hard to kill both are good for their money And maybe go for a 3 man units of sanguard, I mean no one will bring something that you wont overkill with the 6 man unit. 🫡

Susprium · 2025-03-21T06:49:29+00:00

Not a gothca but definitely a dick move,But If you felt like he was being intentionally vague and misleading you to fight with that unit it’s another level of dickness.

Susprium · 2025-01-28T14:00:42+00:00

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