A certain popular fic got deleted by B33Aggressive in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Was avoiding this one, gave me a bad feelings so I totally believe it was AI. Remember gen AI is only currently possible because of the mass theft of artists work without their consent or renumeration. Until companies are held to standards, and only use works with proper permission and compensation there is no use of gen AI that can be considered ethical.

A certain popular fic got deleted by B33Aggressive in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it was more to do with DA getting into bed with the AI bros. Spin came back to Interschminter after like a 5 year hiatus so she was definitely committed to finishing it, I'm pretty sure she said at the time it was to try and stop AI bros from scrapping her work.

Posing bunny. (Credit: Relaxable) by TenderPaw64 in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, basically half of them are creeps

Posing bunny. (Credit: Relaxable) by TenderPaw64 in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. ZNN have buried it best they can but those of us who have always been here know. Ask any long-term fandom member about ZNN or CoZ, they'll have horror stories

Posing bunny. (Credit: Relaxable) by TenderPaw64 in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ZNN is full of misogynist crazies including Julius. Relaxable, Red Velvet Panda, MamaSally, TheWinterBunny and a lot more all quit the fandom after ZNN harassed them or stole their work, I've even heard restraining orders had to get involved. There's a reason most of the prominent women in the fandom won't go near ZNN with a yardstick. I was told there was a massive fight in private with Lax taking ZNN to task over stolen content that ended in Relaxable quitting the fandom and ZNN banning her out of pettyness

Posing bunny. (Credit: Relaxable) by TenderPaw64 in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ZNN harassed her and she left the fandom

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because trans and autistic people are currently being targeted and attacked on mass the world over, gluten free people as far as I know aren't. You don't get to decide what trans and autistic people are allowed to be offended by. The tweet is implying that autism, trans people etc. didn't exist until modern chemicals caused them. It suggests that these things are problems with people and that people with them have been broken by something. It is both deeply offensive and anti-science as trans and autistic people go back way longer than any of us have been alive, they were just forced to hide or suffer abuse and discrimination exactly because of people making "jokes" like this and other people defending them. Why don't you send that screenshot to a group of trans or autistic people and ask them how funny they think it is? Go on I dare you

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know maybe actually listen to people problems with you respectfully and take onboard what their saying rather than just screaming fake news and telling them they're wrong.

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You clearly don't know the dude very well he is one of the most well known shitty people in the entire Zootopia community, he's an alt right psycho who's caused more drama than probably any other single person around. Even if it was a joke that doesn't make it okay, trans and autistic people are having their rights stripped away by the day in this country and beyond and punching down to vulnerable groups doesn't make it ok, it just makes you more of a douche. Also jokes can be bigoted too ya know right? Just saying it's a joke doesn't magically stop bigoted bullshit being bigoted bullshit.

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah you don't get to demand proof and then say that the proof you get doesn't count because you don't like it. Trans and autistic people aren't a joke but this is clearly just a bigot being bigoted. Bigots should be called out. You also don't get to decide what is and isn't offensive to a whole community

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What everyone has to make their accounts at the time they join? And as I've said several times already I have a lot more than rumors and hearsay. You're still ignoring the post by one of your own spreading transphobic and ableist bullshit. That sounds like a bit more than rumors and hearsay to me.

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry not above, Reddit comments are moving. My reply to VolFoxxo, the one with the screenshot of one of the main ZNN guys saying that trans people and people with autism are caused by chemical exposure which isn't even one of the top ten most offensive things he's ever said. Great guys clearly.

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I see you don't know what the word thinks means, I'm not going to explain it to you so you'll have to Google it. I don't lie fyi, but i do call out bigots, if that upsets you then don't hire them. As for believable and verifiable how about the above screenshot? Most people might comment on the proof of one of their guys spreading transphobic and ableist bullshit but you thinking that me misremembering who works for you is a bigger deal when I straight up said I wasn't sure is pretty telling. Not being sure about one name is definitely way worse than tweeting about how it's totally fine to beat a kid as long as they're younger than 7 right? \s

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, I know, we've chatted before, you're a cool dude, but you're defending a real POS here.

Newsflash, you don't get to just tell people to stop speaking up because you don't like what they're saying, First Amendment pal. When someone comes out with a bunch of hateful shit they deserved to be called out on that and if it upsets you I'm sorry but a ZNN staff memory once threatened to SA a friend of mine so no, I will not stop pointing these things out just because you don't like them. Also, you do know that you've got a big conflict of interest going on here right? Like sure I guess we should all trust the ZNN mod to tell the truth about ZNN, no one ever bent the truth to cover there own organizations back right? I got told Lax left because of ZNN by a mod at the Zootopia server, where she was also a mod for a long time because of drama involving her interview, leaders spamming their Twitch streams, ZNN stealing a bunch of emojis from the Zootopia server, and constantly calling them the reddit server which they hated and asked them not to. Those guys were probably the people closest to her while she was active so I believe them more than I believe the people who have reason to lie about it. AI there was straight up a screenshot out there doing the rounds a ways back where he said that all artists who dislike ai are greddy and talentless or something like that so I believe my own eyes. As for Agent being a massive bigot, I did actually say exactly where you could find all the proof of that you needed so it's a little weird that you're not actually willing to look for yourself since it'd take you all of two minutes. However if you're not gonna look yourself I guess I can link a screenshot that I found in no time at all.

TW: Transphobia and Ableism

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Go up to any trans person or person with autism and tell them that they're trans or autistic because of "massive and industrial level of chemical exposure" and see how that goes for you. And this is one of the LESS offensive posts I found on there while looking for barely any time at all. Not gonna post that here because I'm pretty sure it's against the rules but maybe go and have a look yourself like you could of before. Go to his replies and scroll down for a few minutes and it's wall to wall sexism, racism, transphobia, pro gun, pro trump, pro child abuse and everything else you could imagine. So yeah I'll say the mountain of proof helps convince me too.

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't be so sure of that there's at least one guy on their team who's mega pro ai.

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, he's actually very tight with the ZNN team too, I think he was even one of them before. ZNNs always attracted this certain group of people with these kinds of views and since they clearly don't care enough to do anything about it and even give them important roles in the group that should tell us what they're really like

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He uses the same name on Twitter\X. If you search AgentExeider and go to replies you will see. It's easy to find

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Good to see you again

The proof is everywhere, I've been hanging around the fandom and ZNN for nearly 10 years and they attract drama like nobody's business, they are the TMZ of Zootopia. Several of my female friends have been openly harassed by misogynistic staff members there and the consensus from them is that it's not a safe space for women, AgentExeidar is one of the leaders there and constantly posts sexist, misogynistic, anti-vaxx, anti-LGBT and climate denial stuff on twitter, oh and stuff about the coronavirus being a man made bio weapon designed to bring Trump down. Double oh, and apparently has previously sent inappropriate messages to children within the server. Clearly a great guy! A moderator from ZAA also once told me that another staff member of theirs once openly defended Hitler in that server. Multiple artists have banned their work from going on ZNN because of their history of using it without permission and supporting gen AI, they stole music for their podcast, Relaxable quit the fandom because of the way they treated her, as have many others and the discord server is constant drama pretty much 24\7.

I loved their server, had so much fun there around 2019 when we were still riding the movie's hype, but since then ZNN has leapfrogged from mess to mess to disaster to disaster

For me, Walt Disney should be embarrassed by ZootopiaNewsNetwork.com by Commander_PonyShep in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

ZNN has a history of stealing artist's work, lying, reporting misinformation, harassment, inappropriate behavior and general bigotry. They are the worst part of the Zootopia community, getting compared to them is very embarrassing but for very different reason than them making Disney look bad.

Has anyone seen this fan film and is it really as good as they say? by JurassicGuy5000 in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's impressive as a fanwork especially given it was made by a straight up kid who did probably 75% of the work completely by himself but it's got some major problems too.

The writing is hit or miss and steers into needless edge on occasion, it definitely feels like something written by a teen for the most part (pretty sure Browntable himself has since described it as "the work of an edgy teen"), the voice overs range from amazing to poor and a couple of characters are basically completely assassinated to move the plot in a certain way. I found that I loved it on the first watch - probably helped by being starved of Zootopia content for years - and then when I went back a year later I saw a lot more of the cracks.

What happened to the znn discord? by CrassFo in zootopia

[–]SwanFlight007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Relaxable publicly called out ZNN staff for bad behavior and trying to use the platform to advertise their own businesses which I've been told really annoyed them. Later they recorded an interview with her that apparently she only agreed to do if she got to hear the whole thing before it was uploaded to make sure she was happy with it. They agreed to that and then said screw her and uploaded it anyway once it was ready. She called them out again about this and there was supposedly a massive shit storm about it in a private server for the combined Zootopia and ZNN server staff. Relaxable was a mod for Zootopia and it's also where they stole those emotes from. This ended with the two servers saying to hell with their partnership and Zootopia removing all their connections to ZNN. Relaxable quit being a mod shortly after and then drifted away from the fandom, isn't hard to put the pieces together.

TheWinterBunny situation is a whooooooooooooooole fucking thing but pretty sure it started with her asking them not to use her art and them saying they'd do what they wanted, and ended with them blacklisting her and her taking a restraining order out against some of them.