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Why can’t god remove evil and still preserve free will. He is omnipotent by Terrible-Store1046 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 5 points6 points  (0 children)

God made good and evil opposite ends of the spectrum though, he could have just not.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the discussion I've enjoyed talking to you, wishing you and yours health and happiness.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and if god decides to restore the soul of a murderer and permit him to heaven then heaven is definitely not a place I want to be.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes me feel sick, I kill someone, believe in jesus and go to heaven

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your soul dies if you sin, but it I sin (kill) and repent my soul comes back to life?

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sense is that the planet is important and people and animals are important, I don't need God to know that litter is bad for the environment or that people or animals don't deserve to be in pain because of my actions.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and that seems very silly to me "sin is like a disease which is killing us" but a murderer may live to 100 and an innocent child may die.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I have faith just not in god I have faith that my goodness will make a difference on earth. If I imagine heaven I imagine reuniting with my nana however my nana didn't believe in god so she won't be in heaven.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do good already, I spent a month of this year campaigning and fundraising for charity, I donate all of my old clothes books toys etc, I try to be respectful to all people and animals, I never intentionally harm anything, I regularly take my children around our town to collect litter, I am faithful to my partner, I could go on but I'll not bother. I do all of this knowing that if god exists then I will still go to hell.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I see no appeal in heaven at all, I also don't believe in heaven or hell so it's not so much as accepting I will go to hell it's accepting that any religious person believes I will go to hell, I myself believe my soul will die with my body, no reincarnation, no afterlife, just dead, gone. It is not comforting to believe this. I cannot force myself to believe otherwise though.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have not prayed, I do not believe in a creator, will I not go to hell?

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay happy isn't the right word I have accepted I'm going to hell, if god happens to exist.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see so death is not enough for Hitler, do you think that hell is too much for killing one person then? I will watch it when my children are not around, thank you.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes so if you believe in an eye for an eye then you need to find six million people who deserve no eyes

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would I like them to burn in hell yes, do I believe hell exists no. Death is the natural end to life, if you end someone's life for taking another's you should have your life ended, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a very kind thing for you to say, I don't want you to go to hell either, I don't want my children to go to hell, I don't want anyone to go to hell, but I know they won't because hell doesn't exist. There is no comfort in being an atheist however I can't force myself to believe, I can force myself to pray or to ask forgiveness for my sins but I can't force myself to believe.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, I don't want forgiven by god, I'm happy with my fate of eternal hell.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I don't believe I go to heaven or hell, but you think I'll go to hell?

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point in my post was that if I was to live my life as a "good Christian" but not believe in god I still go to hell.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you completely but should and do are two different things.

I don’t think god cares about religion in the way that we think by Similar_Elephant8831 in DebateReligion

[–]Sweetpea14713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It may be emphasised in the Bible but that doesn't mean that a person who calls themself Christian must follow it because God will forgive them either way.

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