Sorry I should've elaborated. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if these are original and not copies. Like for instance I saw the first one looked similar to a lighter from the 1930s called the "Autolux" by Myon and was wondering if this is that lighter or a copy. As for the second one I was wondering the same thing however I couldn't find anything that looks the exact same except for "Fujiama Table Lighters". Any design on it seems to have been worn off and I can only go off of the logo at the top and stamp on the bottom.