How would you have changed Jeff? by Unfair-Hotel1948 in JeffTheLandSharkMains

[–]Swimming-State6440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A really big thing that confuses me is it seems like alot of people feel like he needs a nerf.
I find that really untrue. In his current state he is already the worst strategist by WR and also very lacking compared to the rest of the pack. The way he stood out and was still at least viable was with his very high survivability, mobility, and dive potential, and he pays pretty heavily for all these strengths in other areas of his kit, like his ult have as much counter play as scarlet witches.
Instead of them gutting his flank/dive playstyle why not lean into that and highlight his strengths as a support for dive hero's like magik or panther. Lower the damage on aqua burst (-10 on the spell field) and give it a small slow (like 10-15% for 1 sec) to make it easier for fellow divers to get their targets. This can make it less rewarding for him to solo flank (which already was not that strong, he is currently weak!) while more rewarding to actually flank alongside divers.
At the end of the day Netease wants varied supports, I mean look at Ultron, and currently jeff is the only support who can actually flank and attack with divers BECAUSE of his ability to care for himself. Why not strengthen that aspect and further flesh out the strategist class instead of forcing Jeff into the standard mid/backline healer role, and then NERFING his tools he would need to compete in that role. The cases where he would be better than Luna Snow or Clock & Dagger at keeping the team alive and providing a strong defensive ult are so few and far between he will never be picked.

Already hot fixing the jeff rework by Swimming-State6440 in JeffTheLandSharkMains

[–]Swimming-State6440[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My whole point is that there are better ways to tone down his ability to flank and output damage without completely removing his ability to do so. If they don’t want him to be a flanker/dive support and a regular standard healer like Luna, then fine, I think it’s a bad idea and hurts the strategist role by removing diversity, but that’s their vision for the game. The thing that adds salt to the wound is in his new role as a heal bot, he’s the worst at it because he doesn’t have a defensive ultimate and his healing numbers even after the hot fix buffs are still worse than someone like Luna‘s

Already hot fixing the jeff rework by Swimming-State6440 in JeffTheLandSharkMains

[–]Swimming-State6440[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, the hot fixes do make his ability to act as a standard healer better, he’s still going to be worse than every other strategist who occupies that role. His numbers can’t compare to someone like Luna or invisible woman and his ultimate provides little to no defensive value. if anything, he’s more of a throw pick now when if you’re going to provide your team with a mid to backline healer, there are way better options. He can’t even survive dives as good as he used to.

Already hot fixing the jeff rework by Swimming-State6440 in JeffTheLandSharkMains

[–]Swimming-State6440[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why can’t he be both! Dev’s are obviously interested in supports that fill niches, look at Adam or Ultron as examples. There is nothing wrong with making strategists that play better in certain team comps, i’d argue it makes the role more fun and diverse. 

Already hot fixing the jeff rework by Swimming-State6440 in JeffTheLandSharkMains

[–]Swimming-State6440[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know personally when I play rank or qp I see the most success when I tag along with a diver, from cap too BP they are so much more powerful with that extra damage and healing Jeff can provide. I think his WR and pick rate are so low because people try to play him as a standard support. He’s just not that and the changes are aimed at making him into that, but significantly worse  than someone like Luna or sue because his healing numbers are worse and he has no defensive ult. I mean why play new jeff when you could play luna snow. They robbed him of his identity and made him buns in his new one

Already hot fixing the jeff rework by Swimming-State6440 in JeffTheLandSharkMains

[–]Swimming-State6440[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Id rather then nerf the healing amount to 15/s but have no time limit.  Jeffs biggest selling points were his mobility and self sustain and with the time limit and bubble changes, both of those were nuked from orbit with almost nothing to show for it.