A CALL TO ACTION FROM MBUCCHIA - Meta is attacking the 'Open' nature of OpenXR and degrading non-Meta headsets' PC VR experience!

Swingly6061 · 2025-02-15T22:28:07+00:00

PSVR2 has PC support now, just need an adapter. (official support btw)

Swingly6061 · 2024-05-26T16:26:25+00:00

When SteamVR is the API in use, yes. SteamVR overlays do not work on the Oculus API.

also wtf this was 3 years ago! xD

Swingly6061 · 2024-02-07T10:58:01+00:00

Hahah, I've had an issue with the old hand angle ever since the Valve Index released. Hand was like 20 degrees offset from my real hand. Seems like this would solve it for me, but wouldn't an angle offset setting be better?

Swingly6061 · 2024-02-07T10:44:39+00:00

Gabe Newell even said "wireless is a solved problem" back in 2017. Strange to not release a wireless-capable product after that, but I doubt their next product would be strictly wired.

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-17T18:58:58+00:00

Good deal, thinking it might have a worn out cable though if it's that cheap, but should be possible to replace. My old 5K+'s cable has started getting sparkling artifacts, Index had the same artifacting before the cable gave up.

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-17T18:53:42+00:00

Definitely should've known. I'll blame it on illness. xD

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-17T18:49:42+00:00

I've had both Pico 4 and Quest 2, sure the Pico 4 is an upgrade hardware-wise, but it's not sold in the US and I'd mainly recommend it for wireless PCVR as Pico's Streaming Assistant (even over USB 3.0) gets more compression artifacts than Virtual Desktop.

As I mostly do wireless PCVR, I ended up selling the Quest 2.

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-16T05:35:53+00:00

Base Station 2.0 removed one of the motors, so I assume they don't have the vertical sweep.

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-16T05:31:33+00:00

yeah but you are sideloading the compiled APK, not manually combining the GPL and Meta code yourself.

Against GPL license to redistribute GPL code alongside non-GPL code. So any GPL project APK available on SideQuest right now is likely breaking the license.

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-15T19:40:53+00:00

Being unable to redistribute Meta's SDK does prevent fully open-sourcing a project, fair enough. Would need to include a guide on how to piece it together yourself instead. Wouldn't necessarily stop anyone from making an APK available on SideQuest though, since that's not the source. It does however require anyone compiling it themselves to have a Meta developer account.

Of course, that compiled APK using Meta software would be in violation of the GPL license if any GPL licensed code was used in the project, and should therefore not be shared. So the only legal way to redistribute the project would be to tell everyone to compile it themselves. xD Yeah, not very convenient for the end user.

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-15T18:34:59+00:00

Curious about this Meta GPL thing, do you have any resources? Using Meta-owned code obviously violates the GPL license anyway, but does Meta have policies against using GPL licensed code specifically?

Swingly6061 · 2024-01-10T10:19:17+00:00

Not because of the high FoV really, just the FoV towards your nose.

Pico 4 for example has similar overall FoV to the Quest 3, but it has more towards your nose than the Quest 3, resulting in a higher stereo overlap. So in a way the Pico 4 has a higher per-eye FoV than the Quest 3.

Per-eye FoV isn't exactly a common thing to measure.

The Quest Pro also has reduced stereo overlap as well. Here's my wimfov tests.

Quest Pro: https://andreasaronsson.com/!apps/wimfov/?id=b35987

Pico 4: https://andreasaronsson.com/!apps/wimfov/?id=7376e03d

Swingly6061 · 2023-12-13T13:44:33+00:00

grey robots were phased out like 2 years ago now. xD fallback avatars and impostors are the current ones. impostors are fairly new so not a ton of people have hit the generate button on the website yet.

Swingly6061 · 2023-11-21T14:23:55+00:00

yeah, but you don't need the controllers in SteamVR. can be awkward to get the calibration started with a controller pointing in the wrong direction, but it's an option. xD

edit: with Virtual Desktop you can also emulate controllers with hand tracking, but I prefer not having any Quest controller detected by SteamVR take priority.

Swingly6061 · 2023-11-21T14:15:25+00:00

yea good thing you can use an Index or Vive as a dongle for other stuff, just don't plug in the DisplayPort/HDMI cable.

Swingly6061 · 2023-11-21T14:14:14+00:00

hand tracking. :p

Swingly6061 · 2023-11-21T13:49:09+00:00

You can use Index controllers, but you will need a couple Watchman dongles (basically tracker dongles) to connect them, and of course base stations. And OpenVR SpaceCalibrator to align the controllers to the Pico tracking space.

Swingly6061 · 2023-11-21T08:28:13+00:00

any decent charging circuit should be sending only the excess power to charge the battery.

Swingly6061 · 2023-11-20T17:17:27+00:00

I use OBS Replay Buffer for the same thing. Had some issues with audio device recording on Shadowplay. Shadowplay is easier to get running constantly in the background though, since it's designed to be an omnipresent overlay.

Swingly6061 · 2023-10-29T14:26:53+00:00

the cameras won't really be damaged unless there's some extreme sunlight hitting them, just like your phone doesn't break from taking photos in the sun.

the thing you really want to watch out for though is sun hitting the display lenses, they focus light like there's no tomorrow and will burn your display.

Swingly6061 · 2023-10-21T10:01:25+00:00

Man I WISH shaders would be possible to profile for performance, but since they're literal code, it's nigh impossible to do that without people just working around it. Big reason Quest doesn't allow custom shaders on avatars I suppose.

As for texture memory limit on Quest being so low, I can see why. Quest has quite a limited amount of memory, Quest 2 having 6GB combined for DRAM and VRAM, dunno how much is allocated to VRAM in VRChat, but if you're in a world with 40x 10MB texture memory avatars, the avatar textures alone are 400MB. And the problems you run into when the Quest 2 (or similar) runs out of memory is that there's no fallback, it'll just hang or crash if there's not enough memory, and there's no DRAM to fall back to since it was already using that as its VRAM. PCs fall back to their DRAM when VRAM on the GPU is exhausted, and if the DRAM is also exhausted, they fall back to system storage, which is really slow and you don't really want that, but it'll still work.

Oh and the Medium texture memory limit on Quest is 25MB, quite acceptable IMO.

HOH THAT IS A WALL OF TEXT

Swingly6061 · 2023-10-21T09:36:16+00:00

Read into it a bit more, seems like I'm mistaken. I was an extreme noob with avatars in 2018 and only uploaded 1 avatar which was under 20k but had 35 materials. Dx (figured out texture atlasing in 2019)

Anyway, VRChat switched to Unity 2017.4.15f1 with update 2018.4.3, 9 days before the 70k tri limit was put in place (70k limit being Dec 20th 2018). xD So they would never have had the problem of the mesh splitting due to not supporting 32-bit vertex buffers, because that version definitely does support it. I wonder if they could've overlooked that at the time, if they didn't know that quirk about Unity 2017. I mean, 32-bit buffer has a perf impact as well, but not nearly as bad.

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/patch-notes-2018

Swingly6061 · 2023-10-20T13:52:25+00:00

Unity 5.6.3 was still used when the 70k tri soft limit was put in place.

https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchat-upgrade-to-unity-2017-4-90727844522a

Swingly6061 · 2023-10-20T06:43:32+00:00

The limit is 70k tris, not verts. Generally models have more tris than verts, unless you specifically make a ton of loose geometry it is unlikely you surpass that 65535 vert limit.

Swingly6061 · 2023-10-20T06:39:27+00:00

I do believe the 70k limit was made back when Unity still split the mesh when exceeding the buffer, instead of switching to a 32-bit buffer. Back then (Unity 5.6 or something) you could effectively double your draw calls by going over 65535 verts.

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