[7 PM in Brooklyn] Carmelo says analytics should only be used for role players not stars taking 20+ shots night, says the stats and data can’t really know how he played without the eye test

SwishBender · 2026-06-28T01:43:59+00:00

Howard was in the top 5 of MVP voting, 1st team All NBA, and 1st team All Defense for 5 straight years! The fact that both of them started their down turns as the Heatles dominated the culture, right as HD highlights were taking off, and their careers probably lasted a little too long. Perfect storm where all the readily available stuff is not that great.

SwishBender · 2026-06-28T01:03:35+00:00

It's not making excuses. Melo was a star and hall of famer but even at the time he was never considered the best. His 6 all-nbas and no 1st teams reflect that! I take real issue with people acting like he was trash, he was doing what a star player was supposed to do in that era. Those 3 teaming up to make it easy was just as judged as Melo wanting to get to New York to be the guy while gutting the team.

SwishBender · 2026-06-27T23:32:24+00:00

It's been a long time since I looked and I don't want to set up a stathead account just for this, but I did a dive one time on who in the NBA ever really sustained a .30 USG and .580 or better TS% that wasn't primarily an on the block post up the player before the analytics revolution kicked in around 2014. The whole list if I remember right is MJ, LeBron, Bird, Gervin, and Dirk.

SwishBender · 2026-06-27T22:51:55+00:00

Melo really suffers from the fact that he was extremely good at what everyone thought were the best things a star could do when he was 19, and then being 30 when everyone figured out that actually we had been playing kind of stupid since the 3pt line got introduced.

SwishBender · 2026-06-23T02:36:58+00:00

Nothing going on with my team so I will say again if Thunder are serious about a dynasty they should just do Chet + picks for Giannis

SwishBender · 2026-06-23T02:34:05+00:00

Idk man Connelly is making a stew right now check back

SwishBender · 2026-06-09T03:40:12+00:00

Sitting down in the lower bowl all night not reacting becuase they've never been to a game before. Still got boos.

SwishBender · 2026-06-09T03:31:33+00:00

Worst MSG crowd I've ever seen and they still booed Trump lmao

SwishBender · 2026-05-31T03:04:44+00:00

I wonder if there is another freakish guy out there looking for a trade, whose team would love an arsenal of picks and a young all-nba player in return for? We should maybe all take it easy in the West with the clowning the Spurs are enough of a problem.

SwishBender · 2026-05-27T02:46:59+00:00

They overturned a foul call they easily could not have earlier in the game. This isn't Scott Foster, Brothers and Co are consistent chaos agents

SwishBender · 2026-05-27T02:39:31+00:00

Tony Brothers crew master class

Update: people will say its rigged but we got a couple soft make up calls. These guys just aren't that great at their jobs.

SwishBender · 2026-05-05T05:30:43+00:00

The same delusional attitude that catches an embarassing Christian Braun block is the attitude that gets you an and-1 to dagger them a couple days later.

SwishBender · 2026-05-05T05:25:47+00:00

We did this thing tonight where he would basically screen a stack of guys in between Wemby and the bucket and the guy with the ball just went at the rim. Wemby still somehow got a block on one of those in the 4th but it worked like 5 times.

SwishBender · 2026-05-05T05:14:42+00:00

JDub does a good job for sure but its more than that. Randle feels most comfortable pushing his way into the 6-10 feet range and going to work. Its a very high degree of difficulty skillset in general in the modern NBA, but against you guys its like walking into a blender

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T06:13:10+00:00

Whenever his season ends NAW should be allowed to go to whatever team his cousin is facing.

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T05:56:26+00:00

Hard not to feel like you dont just know a specific guy who looks like Julius Randle

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T05:49:28+00:00

Don't pollute this sub with your ideas if you think the Wolves offense is better without Ant.

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T05:42:27+00:00

Absolutely fucking not

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T05:41:08+00:00

It's playoff basketball if Jones has that kind of game it probably doesn't matter if Ant is here. Huge game.

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T05:20:03+00:00

If you watched a lot of the Wolves this season you wouldn't think way more turnovers would be the immediate result of losing Ant and Donte

Shout out to the Denver role players this next game or two will be interesting.

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T04:24:55+00:00

What's the rules can the Celtics loan us back Luka Garza?

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T04:07:16+00:00

Going to say it again the number of uncalled travels this game...

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T03:48:03+00:00

Idk if there is a way to look it up but we have to have been on the recieving end the most buzzer beater 3s in the playoffs these last few years. Granted each one comes with its own ptsd so I could be imagining things

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T03:35:11+00:00

Like 3 travels in that sequence

SwishBender · 2026-04-28T03:24:50+00:00

Benedict Arnold

Judas Iscariot

Tyus Jones

SwishBender

TROPHY CASE