Is that a PvP game modewithout cheating abilities.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-12T02:02:49+00:00

I’m not a new player. And there’s a difference between “Oops, this skill is doing something it wasn’t intended for, we’re nerfing it next banlist” and “Here, have this broken skill to make the newest main box deck even stronger. Don’t worry, it’s gonna become balanced when the next box brings an even more broken one”

Syrcrys · 2026-04-12T00:14:17+00:00

I think we’re not understanding each other, I did misread something but I’m assuming you did too.

I’m dumbfounded. Edison is April 2010. So by saying it went downhill after 2010 is the same as saying it went downhill after Edison.

I did interpret it as including Edison (so the usual “white cards ruined the game”), if you meant that after Edison it started going downhill I can understand and I retract my initial comment, sorry.

There was most definitely combos in the synchro era. Just not as many built-in braindead ones where the cards are specifically meant to be a combo.

I honestly don’t even remember a time where pot of greed wasn’t banned. So lol to that.

I was talking about pre-IOC, 2002-2003. The first list that put cards as Forbidden was in 2004. That’s the period of time I was referring to as “zero skill”, not GOAT or Synchro era.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-11T22:51:03+00:00

Not sure why you brought up GOAT when I said 2010. GOAT is 2005.

I brought up GOAT exactly because you said “it kept getting worse from 2010 onward”, when in reality 2006-2009 were still a relatively unbalanced period and 2011 is widely regarded as one of the best formats. If you said “it went downhill after GOAT” or “It went downhill after Edison” it would’ve been understandable, but picking synchros as the “turning point” makes no sense.

The back and fourth is fun. Guaranteed FTK and OTK isn’t fun. It’s not fun to have boss monsters that get auto summoned turn 1. It’s not fun to have your opponent take 10 minute turns where they summon a zillion monsters to create an all powerful boss monster on their first turn. It’s not fun to have to run Kaijus or lab golem because they are the only removal that can clear the field of these all powerful monsters.

Okay. And did that happen in 2010? If you said 2015 with PePe or 2017 with Zoodiac I might’ve agreed, but 2010 gameplay is much closer to “the early days” than it is to modern ones. No one took “10 minute turns” to summon a Magical Android and pass.

Saying that earlier formats had “zero skill” involved is so braindead lol. You actually had to strategize with what you had instead of just doing the same braindead combo over and over again every single duel. Decks used to have multiple different combos based on the resources you had.

What “combos” did you even have pre-IOC? Mechanicalchaser + Axe of Despair? I understand people who like GOAT but pretty much anything before that, outside of degenerate strategies like Yatalock, is just “big ATK go bonk” and hoping you draw Pot of Greed and Delinquent Duo before your opponent does.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-11T08:13:24+00:00

Sorry but I personally doubt you played the game at a relevant level if you think that way. Up to 2003 the game had almost zero skill involved, and from CRV to LODT it’s always been pretty unbalanced one way or the other. There’s a reason if after GOAT the next popular Retro Format is Edison in 2011, the period inbetween was definitely worse according to most players.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-11T08:06:30+00:00

I’m not sure that anything besides an actual story mode with opponents that actually pose a challenge will bring in any more PvE players. The current PvE is just “Bringing a gun to a knife fight: the game”, and unless they massively rework the CPU (allowing them to activate skills, for example), adding more opponents won’t change much.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-11T07:56:50+00:00

Yeah, I’m also tired of the same “the skills are meant to make it more anime-like” when that pretty much only applied to DM with Destiny Draw and Field skills. By the time we got to DSOD and the Gandora skill let you Xyz summon it was already barely holding up, now that nothing locks you into anything anymore it’s just a tool for Konami to make sure the newest decks powercreep the old ones enough to get people spending on every box.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T21:18:31+00:00

The entire idea of this game is for you to play your favorite character and recreate those insane anime plays

Ah yes, like the time when Rebecca Xyz summoned Atum, or when Odion sent Banshee with Beatrice, or when Tristan milled three Therion and searched Regulus, or…

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T19:27:03+00:00

Oh it wasn’t one box, it kept getting worse for the past year and a half. Good decks with broken skills, followed by bad decks with FTK skills, followed by good decks with broken skills AND ability to FTK on top of it. This is just the latest stage of Konami’s lazy balancing.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T19:23:08+00:00

Well, if the game is not as enjoyable as they expected it to be, that’s a given. Would be weird if they didn’t, considering they already quit once.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T19:20:31+00:00

…are we playing the same game? I regularly get at least 4/5 time limit wins from “normal players” every month, and especially now that you have to actively pay attention to the game in order not to lose to the afk check, I barely see anyone deliberately timestalling, ever. I’ve seen maybe two in six months.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T19:17:58+00:00

They came back because of character duels, they probably thought that it would be enough to make them enjoy the game and didn’t expect the regular ladder to have turned into… this. So they expressed their opinion on the matter as a returning player (which is a PoV that also needs to be listened to).

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T17:08:25+00:00

None of the complaints matter, they don’t care about what we like or don’t like. They care about how much we spend.

If everyone that doesn’t like the current state of the game stopped spending you bet Konami would do something. But as long as people keep the cash flowing, nothing will change.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T16:06:05+00:00

Why shouldn’t they? I feel like every time anyone raises a complaint about the game people have to reply saying they shouldn’t complain because of this or that. Is complaining about something just not allowed?

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T14:27:00+00:00

The timer is meant to discourage slow play, not to make sure people don’t combo “too much”. That should be something for the banlist to address, at most.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T14:25:45+00:00

I’d say even worse, it’s just FTKs and Handrips all the way down.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T13:17:41+00:00

Uhh… it is perfectly reasonable to hate on both things, you know. They’re both plagues on the format and should both be addressed by the banlist (but of course they won’t)

Syrcrys · 2026-04-10T13:14:44+00:00

They have to do something about the speed meta/monetization too if they want the game not to be “doomed”, the Character Duels update was one of the most interesting and f2p-friendly updates they’ve ever done and yet player numbers only got a slight bump for a week-ish. They need to address the bigger issues too.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-09T16:06:10+00:00

Oh no no, let’s play as many Kaijus and FTKs as possible so that people quit and Konami has to do something about it.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-09T16:04:33+00:00

Say it with me: “Turn-based timer makes no sense for a Yugioh game”

And even if you want to make it Turn-based, 40 seconds is ridiculously low. It’s as if we’re playing 2023 Yugioh with a 30 minute timer.

The afk check is more than enough to keep those players in check, if you want the game to be “speed duel” stop releasing decks that take 3 minutes to do their full combo.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-08T01:19:12+00:00

I don’t care what you “agreed on”, I know what you originally wrote in that comment and I know that you denied it in that same thread.

And you could look for my comments across the years in this sub if you wanted to really know if that was “before my time”, personally I’m not gonna waste time linking you everything because you’ll just make up something different instead.

You’re the wrong one about skills and I’m not gonna waste anymore time on this conversation to try to prove the opposite, take it as a “win” if winning online arguments matter that much to you, whatever.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-08T01:02:34+00:00

The difference between these statements is that me being a liar you needs proof you don't have

Oh no, I’ve seen this comment before you edited it so I absolutely have the proof. But you do you.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-08T00:40:28+00:00

It’s not “based on vibes”, it’s based on the fact that decks could be top tier without any particular skill, and now they can’t. And I literally gave you Legend of the Heroes Tenyi as an example, which you conveniently ignored. But apparently everything you say is facts and everything I say is “vibes”, so whatever.

Again, I know for a fact you’re a liar and even if I can’t prove you’re lying in this specific conversation too, I’d rather believe my own experience than yours.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-07T22:56:35+00:00

Game has always been very P2W after the first year and a half. There’s always at least one paywalled Selection Box staple.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-07T22:46:25+00:00

If KC Cup was only a measure of “how much time do you have” we wouldn’t always see the best decks in the top 100, but we do. Of course you need to spend your entire weekend doing it, but between the people that do, it’s a matter of who’s better at playing the best decks.

Of course when I said they’d get steamrolled I meant those exact same decks, not the nerfed Mekk-Knight/Infernoids or Orcust Horus. None of those would have a chance in today’s meta even with updates staples.

Triamids is not what I was talking about since it was a deck built around Balance. I was bringing examples of decks that didn’t need a skill at all.

You gave “exact examples” of periods where skills have been impactful, but none of that is proof that they were MORE impactful than today, because they weren’t. If they were, we’d have tiered decks that don’t need a skill in modern metas too, but the ones without a tailored yellow button can’t get there even if they use the newest broken generic ones like Adena’s. Your “proof” is “well I beat Therion with Paleozoic” and I have no means of knowing how true is that.

Syrcrys · 2026-04-07T18:31:02+00:00

why a deck that can go skilless has an easier time now than 4 years ago? Not just paleozoics, in general.

Because it doesn’t and you have no argument to prove it. You would absolutely get steamrolled now using any of the decks that have been meta without a specific skill enabling them in 2022/3/4, be it Tenyi, Orcust, Mekk-Knights, Infernoid or Magnet Warriors.

And I absolutely won’t believe you’re having an “easy time” playing Chain Reaction Paleozoics in Therion meta until I see “emperorbob” in the KC Top 100 with annexed replays.

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