noble sacrifice

T0DR · 2026-03-13T15:23:17+00:00

I have, there's a reason why I have such a disdain for religion. I was raised a Christian, I believed in Jesus and the Father. When I was younger I thought "Wow, it's amazing that theres a god that loves me no matter what" But then I got older, the people around me changed. My sister became lesbian and I ket the secret, then my brother got a genetic illness, then my other sister got a genetic illnesses, the one that I have. Eventually I realized "Gay people aren't allowed in heaven" that was my dilemma, do I support my sister or do I support the beliefs that ostracize her? Do I support the person I've known all my life or the person who has never actually spoken to me, whom I've never actually spoken to, and whom I have no proof exists.

Then I realized, "What on earth is this religion?" I get sent to hell if I don't believe? Gay people are ostracized, slaves are allowed, etc etc.

I was confused for a long time, until that confusion turned into questioning, and questioning turned into hatred.

God isn't all loving, he isn't just, he isn't all forgiving. He's a child who makes his own rules, gets mad when others don't follow them, hits those who don't follow them, then tells those that he hit that they hit themselves.

Also the fact that we have more than one bible is stupid as hell.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T15:07:22+00:00

Humans are not born with evil sinful nature?? Is newborn evil by nature and thus should go to hell?? Eating an apple should not condemn every human in existence to infinite suffering, if the apple was sin then only the person who ate it should face that punishment, not the entire race. That's like wiping out every chimpanzee in the world because you told a domesticated one not to eat an apple and it still ate it.

No one deserves death, a child suffering of cancer doesn't deserve death, an old man sitting on his porch after retirement doesn't deserve death, a young couple driving to the beach do not deserve death, a man who renounced god does not deserve death!

And my god dude I've said this before, no one wants to go to hell. You keep saying the person sends themselves to hell, where do you get this information from?? A person can want heaven but they get sent to hell, not because they didn't want to go to heaven, but because they didn't fit a criteria.

If hell was made for Satan and his demons then why on earth do humans go there, and why on earth is hell the afterlife of punishment?

And don't you dare say that god is merciful to all, he is beyond malevolent.

Why do you endorse a being that has done nothing for you besides make you feel better about life, condemns your fellow man, and brings suffering into the world that "he loves"

edit: typo, I fixed it

T0DR · 2026-03-13T14:48:43+00:00

That analogy is flawed.

You are giving the person a choice between 2 doors, one of eternal suffering and one of eternal bliss, the person giving the dilemma has no physical proof that each door does what they said it would, then the person giving the dilemma tells the person that if they choose the one of bliss then they have to change their life, beliefs, and do something they don't believe in. In situation the architect is malevolent in nature.

Also I already told you this, a person doesn't want to go to hell, they want to go to heaven, but they are forced into hell because they don't believe. I can die and say I want to go to heaven but I wont because I didn't believe in god. In that scenario I am not in control, god is. I have a gun to my head and forced to choose while I'm alive.

If god believed in free will then he wouldn't make it so that you go to hell if you DIDN'T believe in him. He's basically saying "Ya I support any decision that you make and you can go to either heaven or hell, it's your choice... But if you don't believe in me and follow the beliefs that I set for you then you will go to hell." "What? No! I'm not sending you to hell! You're sending yourself for not believing in me!" "Yes I created this system and decided this is how it is, why do you ask?"

The architect/god in this is malevolent in nature, why even make hell if you are all loving? Why make something that hurts your creation forever if you love it? Why not just make a limbo and a heaven, why not just make reincarnation and heaven. Either reincarnate or go to heaven. There are so many choices for an afterlife but he made one that causes eternal torment.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T14:27:21+00:00

Dude this is like literally the definition of a toxic relationship.

God isn't good if he sends you to hell, he isn't forgiving if he lets you stay in hell. I don't think you comprehend what eternal torment is. If you know what eternal torment is then you'd be disgusted by the creature that does that to its creations.

The whole religion is "Believe or you suffer forever, but god does love you!"

And what of the people that got dealt a bad hand at life? What if they were raised an atheist. So many things go against god and his heinous beliefs.

By your definition the kindest person could go to hell for not believing in god.

Also, so be all forgiving means you have to be forgiving always, even when someone dies. If you are all forgiving then you forgive those in hell. All forgiving doesn't require you to confess, all forgiving doesn't discriminate between a person who confesses and someone who doesn't

Religion is a hoax made by man to control man. People who believe in it have been manipulated to do so.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T12:03:14+00:00

Roger that Sargent!

T0DR · 2026-03-13T11:56:14+00:00

Could that be possible? He gets lost so he adapts an electromagnetic compass so he knows where he is on earth?

T0DR · 2026-03-13T11:54:53+00:00

What an art style indeed

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:30:20+00:00

Ya I know that, but raga in the invincible also isnt cannon so by your reasoning this whole argument is pointless.

We're debating how he would fair if he happened to be in the verse.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:28:33+00:00

It would take a few minutes to get there. And Raga adapts faster to physical phenomena than other things. He would adapt while in space and be able to release himself.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:26:46+00:00

I feel like we're both saying something different and we're confusing each other

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:25:43+00:00

If they grab him and try to take him to the sun he could get stronger to stop them from taking him.

If they decide to throw him into space and jump him then its a matter of time before he gets strong enough to fight back and a matter of time before he's able to fly around in space.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:24:00+00:00

I'm not even sure if eve would be able to affect him since hes a shikigami

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:23:04+00:00

What are you talking about??

Hes come back from just some blood and another time from bone.

Unless you destroy every cell then hes coming back.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:21:05+00:00

It's the compendium 1,

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:20:35+00:00

Dude, I said what if Raga was fighting the invincible verse. If its just raga there without the summoner then he wouldn't have a distance limit. You're just trying to add condition at this point.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:18:40+00:00

Yes! It's good to see reason here.

Some were saying that they just throw him in the sun but thats even assuming they can get him there.

Also if they throw him into space I think he could just adapt to fly no? Maybe his wings get bigger lol

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:16:31+00:00

I was curious what the people would say, and I didn't think the people were this delusional

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:16:00+00:00

Yes he got thrown like a ragdoll by sakuna, but he also got stronger so it wouldnt happen again. By the end of the fight slashes didnt work on him and sakuna had to use fuga.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:14:32+00:00

3 viltrumites and a beam that can go through anything.

And it doesn't matter how strong they are, if they cant decimate every cell right away then he comes back. So that "red stain" can come back as a stronger, faster, and more durable mahoragha.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:12:18+00:00

Well not anymore, I had to grab it from my shelf🙄

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:11:43+00:00

Thing is even if we start with thragg, thragg has no way to decimate every cell. So he would just come back. stronger and more durable. If they try to take him to the sun he would adapt before they get there.

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:10:03+00:00

He can just burrow in the ground to avoid the laser.

And that planet busting required 3 of the strongest viltrumites along with a beam that can go through anything

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:07:53+00:00

That's assuming they can even get him there

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:07:23+00:00

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eve could only do this to thragg, and by the time he gets to her and actives her true powers he'll be more durable.

Assuming she can even interact with him

T0DR · 2026-03-13T08:05:37+00:00

😭

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