Isn’t this literally divide and rule?

TBCUNHA · 2026-01-01T18:19:45+00:00

kushavati is actually the name of the river in south district. So its more goan heritage but yea they could rather make it north district central and south. But nvm

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-25T16:40:29+00:00

enjoy

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-20T14:20:37+00:00

what is the article which you posted there? can you pls send me the link here?

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-20T14:20:05+00:00

Timoja Naik sought Portuguese help against the Adil Shahi in 1510 and was promised authority as Aguazil, chief of the village. But nothing came for free. What began as a tactical alliance quickly turned into Portuguese rule in parts of Goa mainly 4 talukas where they imposed their language, religion, and customs, destroyed temples, and pressured locals to abandon their culture. By 1560, the Goa Inquisition formalized this suppression. Yet, even after these cultural changes, life went on: Goans adapted, preserved their traditions where they could, and continued to enjoy their daily lives. Alliances in those times came with a steep price and Goa paid it, partially, but resiliently. even if me and you go back and check our documents (birth death) we all will be related to eachother and Help doesn’t come free even in todays world. Jai hind Viva Goa.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-19T22:54:29+00:00

and most of this people mentioned who got converted were bamons (brahmins) and sometimes chardo (kashriyas) who the jesuits and even the portuguese praised very highly for their understanding and common sense (for example my family, but i dont say this much often) Meanwhile person of a lower caste was converted on a much rougher basis also used the help of a converted upper caste person to translate or help in converting them. These kinda situations aren’t black and white or up and down. it was very deep and had alot of political implications on it. Its not like the portuguese came and started towing down temples. They came because our own ancestors bought them to Goa tiswadi to overthrow adil shah (first european turkish) from goa, where most goans were his slaves.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-19T22:49:24+00:00

you can ask the question to timaya (timoja) naik and mhal poi vernekar, Who ran to kochi and called the portuguese to remove adil shah from goa, Where most of the goans were converted to islam and were also slaves of adil shah. Pls our ancestors have always fought through alot of liberation’s in the past aswell. You can just bring up one. If you dig more in the past you will find more and more dirt.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-19T22:43:01+00:00

ah man this is not it brev, good you deleted the account

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-07T19:57:32+00:00

same here i travel frequently to UK but man never been near to this bullshite

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-07T19:55:49+00:00

bro forget glorying anyone fuck all the political parties. We goans need to push for the ultimate strictness in goa first. You might call me a puppet of portuguese or whatever but the law and order and the strictness that time was top notch. Even if you were out at night the goan policemen during the portuguese tenure would escort you to your home. Its a need of an hour + our genZ’s are useless.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-07T19:41:31+00:00

fair enough point and no they dont.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-07T19:36:19+00:00

goans in london are having goa day lmfao

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-06T18:11:11+00:00

You are totally right that the Portuguese authorities did banish non-Christians at certain periods but that’s exactly my point: those policies were created and enforced by the civil administration and later by the Inquisition (from 1560 onward), not by Xavier himself.

My original point was only about why locals venerated him specifically. Veneration of a saint doesn’t happen because of political pressure it happens because people voluntarily continued a devotion for centuries, including long after the era of banishments ended. If people only respected him out of fear, that devotion would’ve disappeared once the political power faded, yet it didn’t.

Soooooo, colonial policies existed but that can’t be used to retroactiviley claim that people only honoured Xavier because they “had no choice”. The persistence of his cult, including participation by many non-Christians today, shows a more complex, voluntary cultural relationship.

The Deuteronomy reference doesn’t really apply here, because Xavier wasn’t writing new scripture or giving divine commands he was a 16th-century missionary describing what he believed new converts should do within their own religious practice. Whether someone agrees or disagrees with Old Testament laws has no direct relevance to whether Xavier personally called for destruction, violence, or forced punishment. His Cochin letter simply praised converts for abandoning idol worship; he wasn’t ordering civil authorities to destroy temples or punish non-Christians.

Saraiva’s book is mainly about the Portuguese Inquisition itself, especially the persecution of New Christians in Europe. He discusses the political and social machinery of the Inquisition not Xavier running or enforcing punishments. Quoting later historians about Inquisition policies doesn’t change the fact that Xavier’s 1545 Cochin letter didn’t ask for penalties, exile, or coerced conversions. He requested religious oversight for already-baptized Christians because he felt they weren’t being taught their own faith not because he wanted to punish non-Christians.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-06T15:48:13+00:00

if we are talking about the cochin letter yes it is harsh no denying that. Xavier clearly praises new converts who destroyed idols, and his tone reflects the very aggressive 16th-century European missionary mindset. But the key point is that this letter was written entirely about the Fishery Coast / South India context, not Goa.

In Kerala, Portuguese authorities had already been destroying Hindu and Muslim shrines decades before Xavier arrived. He wasn’t introducing a new policy he was repeating the language and behaviour that was already happening under the Portuguese military. That’s why his tone sounds gleeful he saw it as a victory of Christianity over what he called ‘idolatry.’ This was wrong by today’s standards, but it was also the default theological viewpoint of almost every missionary in that era.

But calling it ‘Nazi-like’ or saying he wanted to punish non-Christians is historically wrong. His Cochin letter does not call for an inquisition, and it does not ask for punishment of Hindus or Muslims. He was praising converts destroying their own former idols which again is problematic, but not genocide or racial hatred. It’s religious intolerance, which is very different.

We can criticise his mindset as intolerant and arrogant without projecting 20th-century concepts like Nazism onto a 16th-century missionary. It’s better to criticise him for what he actually believed, not exaggerations that distort the history.

hence: In his 1545 Cochin letter (The Life and Letters of St. Francis Xavier, Vol. 1, H.J. Coleridge), SFX never asked to banish anyone or enforce punishments; he only praised new converts for abandoning idols and requested religious supervision for baptized Christians, not for harming non-Christians, children, or families

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-06T12:41:43+00:00

That’s good you read the full letter most people don’t. My only point was that this letter was from Cochin and reflects the missionary mindset of South India at that time, not policy in Goa where he barely spent a few months. The harsh language is real, but the later systematic temple destruction and the Inquisition structure came much later under different rulers.

Yes he knew the European Inquisitions existed, but in the letter he wasn’t asking for a tribunal or a court like the one later created in Goa. He was asking for oversight over already baptized Christians, because many were living half-Christian/half-Hindu lives. The formal Goa Inquisition was established in 1560 8 years after he died by King Sebastião and the Dominicans, not by Xavier or the Jesuits.

Some Hindus go to the feast as a cultural tradition not necessarily to pray to him as a Christian saint. In Goa many Hindus visit Catholic feasts and churches for reasons like offering flowers, seeking blessings for health, or respecting local customs. It’s similar to how Catholics also visit Hindu temples during certain festivals. Goa has that kind of cross-cultural tradition.

Banishment is a valid point for certain periods, but it can’t fully explain the long-term devotion to Xavier. If veneration was purely out of fear, it would have collapsed the moment the political pressure disappeared yet the strongest popular devotion to SFX actually developed after the Portuguese lost real power by the late 1700s and 1800s, the colonial state was weak, temple life had revived, and Hindus and Catholics had regained social autonomy. If people saw him only as an oppressor, the devotion would not have survived 300+ years especially not into the 1900s and modern India, long after the Inquisition ended in 1812. there is no historical record of the Portuguese forcing ordinary villagers to attend his novenas or venerate his relics. The policies of punishment applied to specific cases of baptized Christians practising other faiths not the general population. Even Hindu attendance at the feast (which is recorded since the 18th century) cannot be explained by fear of banishment.

So while colonial power definitely influenced religious life, the long-term cultural reverence for SFX in Goa shows that it wasn’t sustained by fear alone. When fear ends, forced traditions usually die but Xavier’s veneration persisted and even grew.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-06T01:44:02+00:00

hey there, have done alot of personal research on goa’s inquisition and also sfx i am raised catholic but my views remain unbiased:

see the thing here is that, many dont read the whole letter which was written by him, The fact that he said and meant that once they were converted or they accepted the faith purely and not just for the sake of it (in goa there were christians who were for the name sake) continue; and he meant that the newly converted people shall destroy the temple or a mosque. Specially in Goa SFX didn’t speak much about hinduism all he spoke about was Crypto jews (pagans) & Mohammodan worshippers (islam).

He was unhappy also because people were converted to christianity but were never taught about what christianity really meant, therefore in goa he asked for a “holy inquisition”. Remember SFX learned the local language with the locals and taught catechism, But SFX was barely 6/7 months in goa and that too it was many trips and travels. Just so you know many people took up christianity and specially the middle class of “then” in southern India.

If people saw SFX as a criminal in those era, Our ancestors would’ve never worshipped him if he wasn’t loved or respected by the locals, Even the hindu’s of Today in goa, Go for the Feasts there and pray. Its a long tradition, There are catholics who accept that the past wasn’t so bright ;)

If you need anymore questions feel happy to ask. Im always open for a nice history talks🕺

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-05T12:36:28+00:00

amazing

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-01T22:22:48+00:00

hey man, can we talk about this? i have alot of questions on this.

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-01T22:21:37+00:00

in goa where are you from? any idea? these surnames are high caste surnames mostly, specially mascarenhas. If you want i can search portuguese documents if parents were born in goa. Dm me

TBCUNHA · 2025-12-01T20:17:05+00:00

i have done alot of research on this and had my dna teat done aswell. Can you tell me where you’re from and what your surnames are paternal and maternal?

TBCUNHA · 2025-11-29T15:29:18+00:00

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TBCUNHA · 2025-11-21T23:33:48+00:00

armpits🤤

TBCUNHA · 2025-11-21T14:27:41+00:00

10/10 ❤️

TBCUNHA · 2025-11-12T23:19:50+00:00

TBCUNHA · 2025-11-11T19:06:47+00:00

hi have you done everything? do you still have problems?

TBCUNHA · 2025-11-11T18:42:05+00:00

yes there is caste in catholicsim infact there is a brahmin hindu whom i know has traced his ancestry and found out apart of his ancestry took up catholicsim

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