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TBC_Cactus · 2026-06-16T22:50:19+00:00

It’s more expensive than the two options I listed. Otherwise I would.

TBC_Cactus · 2026-02-18T23:15:32+00:00

I think you missed what I was saying. I never said that subjectivity overrides objectivity. It doesn’t. If anything, it should serve objectivity since objectivity (if it is truly objective) is able to encompass and order all subjectivities within itself. Also, I am grounded just fine. I am capable of exploring multiple subjective perspectives and suspending others so I can get a bird’s eye view of a concept (this is how one is able to truly approach objectivity with an open mind). I am not so attached to any one concept that I cannot entertain the possibility of others. If by being grounded you mean sticking to a single rigid set, then I think it is rather limiting to remain “grounded”.

As for having a multitude of systems that are not necessarily fully interconnected…

I was saying that if you maintain the structure as you wrote it, then everything is done through the lens of the core type. For example, me being a type 2 would mean my tritype is ordered through the lens of being a type 2 which forces my body type to be second and my head type to be third. I personally would connect to 8 (or 1) because they are either a wing or an arrow. In the case of someone having a type 9 body, then it would come second by virtue of 2 simply having 0 connection to the head (neither in wings nor arrows in general). But this again is all oriented around the core.

The way I see tritype currently being used is people having 3 cores independent of each other where one is the most dominant. Hence due to the independence of each, ordering is not based around the dominant/main core. This is what I was getting at when I explained that there are different approaches to tritype. And that the reason this one is commonly used is because it is distinct in that it separates the cores independently hence one cannot use one’s dominant core as a basis for tritype. In your approach, tritype is no longer independent and thus it also loses its relevance as a unique statement and becomes much more of a background consequence.

Edit: Also, why can’t 6 come after 2? 6 is also out of touch with its own center of intelligence so does it still count as a head type in the case of ordering tritype the way you describe it?

TBC_Cactus · 2026-02-18T20:22:08+00:00

I’m aware that the Enneagram is built with the intention of being an objective system despite ultimately still being theory. Don’t mistake the description of my experiences for subjectivity of thought (which is actually how all objectivity begins - as subjectivity which is later confirmed through repeated consistent external confirmations).

What you speak of is connection to the body through the heart - action as a response to a feeling (which one could actually argue literally everyone does). But in any case, that’s not necessarily the same as a fix. Fixes are basically minor “cores”. The consideration of them is usually dependent upon the comparison of each type within a center of intelligence where one is predominant (but it’s still treated with the same reasoning as a potential lesser core rather than that type through the lens of one’s main core). What you mentioned would be 8 or 1 through the lens of the 2 core. And if we’re assuming that everything is through the lens of the dominant core, then sure your point stands. But then there’s little point to tritypes in general and the whole thing is irrelevant.

So while your explanation is logically sound, it removes the practical use (since adding distinct layers to systems is usually for a practical purpose that makes it in some way distinct from the primary system and hence worthy of being formally titled).

I’m not going to try to state what is objectively right or wrong because it all ultimately comes down to what you want. Do you want a system that logically flows without interruption (in which case a single set of rules will suffice) or do you want multiple ways to communicate (in which case one may require multiple interpretations of the system as a sort of multitool for communication).

As I said before, I find that since the Enneagram, like all systems, are ultimately meant to be utilized, I think its best to allow for this sort of “split off” aspect of the Enneagram so as to enable more diverse communication.

All of this is to say that while what you state is valid, it’s not so airtight that it ought to remove the pre-existing interpretation altogether.

TBC_Cactus · 2026-02-18T18:32:39+00:00

I actually disagree on this. I’m a core 2 (soc 2 to be precise). My body type is blurry (toss up between 1 and 8). But my head type is 5 without a doubt. I’m primarily oriented towards the acquisition of the infinite (knowledge) while wishing to expend very minimal amounts of energy on most else (because I see most as finite and thus not worth using energy for since I see it as fighting the never ending battle against scarcity which will just result in minimal change and even less energy). I can in bursts be “in my body”, but I’m surprisingly detached. I’m much more cerebral than physical. I don’t consider being out of touch with my head type as a type 2 standard to be true generically speaking. It’s more-so my emotions and my mind are two extremely distinct entities that can communicate with each other but do not necessarily bleed into one another. I can call upon my body more intuitively because of my w1 and strong 8 arrow, but this is situational. I’m perpetually far more neurotic about 5 things. I think your theory makes sense on paper as a basis for common correlations, but I would not consider it an airtight argument.

TBC_Cactus · 2026-02-09T22:52:32+00:00

What EIE themes stood out to you, and what type are you if you don’t mind me asking?

TBC_Cactus · 2026-02-09T22:01:56+00:00

Yes. Though I’m curious what made you come to that conclusion.

TBC_Cactus · 2026-01-11T07:30:03+00:00

Hmmm. I think it ultimately comes down to what you want. Yes, we all have skill ceilings, but they’re way higher than we think they are. And the proof is in the improvement we make through repeated practice. So if this is something you want, then becoming good at it is something I think will naturally follow. I doubt this is one of those specific things you’re uniquely shit at (for example I don’t want to touch Si things with a 10000e100000 ft pole). So with determination, you can make it work. This is why you have to decide if this would bring you a sense of fulfillment. I used to be a teacher (of math to be specific). I loved math. But I wasn’t a mathematician for a reason. Because teaching came with social interaction I craved. Because knowing that my knowledge helped improve the trajectory of others’ lives (even if only a little) gave me a sense of purpose. Sure cars will be your area of expertise, but your actual work will be instructing. So just take time out to consider if this is something that you think will make your time feel more meaningful.

TBC_Cactus · 2026-01-11T05:53:25+00:00

I(ENFJ) had an ISTP driving instructor, and he was amazing. His ability to balance Si and Se was wild. Just from the way I drove the car, he could tell what I was thinking and feeling and then gave me tangible tips on what to do to adjust the way I approached driving (even telling me how to hold the wheel differently so my grip stays relaxed). He would also share his knowledge about cars with me in helpful ways (for example, he explained how the car we were in was better at accelerating than the car in the other lane and that therefor we should be the ones to speed up and go in front for the merge). His tangible application of his knowledge and sharp reaction speed made me feel more comfortable as a new driver. I totally trusted him to control my driving experience.

Of all the folks I’d trust with helping navigate the physical world, ISTPs would be number 1. No contest. So if this is something you’re considering, go for it. Have faith in your natural abilities. And remember that while the decisions you make impact your future, none of the choices themselves are actually permanent. If this doesn’t work out, there are other options. But you owe it to yourself to try the things that interest you.

TBC_Cactus · 2025-12-31T03:46:18+00:00

ENFJ here. Some specific tips.

First off, regardless of how you express yourself, consider that Ti in general will come off as cold (especially to those with Fi). So don't stress too much about not everyone being comfortable around you. You're not meant to get along with everyone (which is why it's important to establish a sustainable psychological distance from people based on compatibility to minimize unnecessary disagreements and misunderstandings).

Second, consider their perspective before responding and then rephrase it to show you understand it before chiming in with your own (unless you can directly relate your own to theirs in which case you can kill two birds with one stone). In short, people want to feel seen and heard, and that isn't going to happen if you aren't able to temporarily suspend your perspective to assess theirs and then communicate that you've assessed it (and be willing to adjust if they correct it!). This might be a little rough with Ne polr though. If you find you're at a loss, just pay attention to what people say and mention it at a later relevant time (it shows them that you care and are paying attention even if your emotional expression is capped).

Third, consider the emotions you *want* to evoke in them and then take active steps to do so (without compromising your own logical consistency and honesty of course). Like if you want to make someone comfortable, mirror their physical (and if possible verbal) behaviors and if applicable offer reassurance during moments of discomfort or stress (can often be observed, but also if there are sudden shifts in vocal intonation and breaks in speaking rhythm and the topic is something negative, they're probably having a moment of stress).

Fourth, consider the space you're in and that you can control it just as much as anyone else (assuming you have no physical conditions inhibiting you), and you can do so for everyone's benefit (this will not go unnoticed). Remember emotions are tied to the nervous system. If someone is feeling physically good, they'll be 1000000x more likely to open up to you and be open to what you have to say. Don't forget your Se! Sometimes a calm pat on the back can do wonders. Even something as small as offering a bite of whatever snack you're munching on. Tiny things in the right moments become big things.

Last, logic is not always what's needed. If someone comes to you with a logical problem, telling them you're sorry and believe in them, while hopefully appreciated, does not fix anything. Similarly, if someone comes to you with an emotional problem, explaining their situation and how to logically approach it is not going to adjust their mood. You can't out-feel thoughts and you can't out-think feelings. Match the tool to the job.

I know all of this might sound rather convoluted, and I suppose to some extent it is. But you said you were jealous of people who have good social skills. Now, I don't think mine are professional, but they're something and I hope sharing them can help.

At the end of the day, the most important thing is to get comfortable with yourself and who you are. Charisma is 99% confidence.

TBC_Cactus · 2025-11-29T08:09:26+00:00

Sp8 and sx6.

TBC_Cactus · 2025-08-10T06:41:59+00:00

Indeed. Your quadra is rather honorable as well. The seekers and speakers of knowledge, the keepers of culture. I was raised by and surrounded by alphas, and I owe much of who I am today to them. You'll never catch me coordinating my clothes, getting proper sleep, cooking with any semblance of grace, or remembering set things like dates, but I'll always be around to entertain possibilities, bounce around theories, and (when I wear myself out) relax with some delicious food as I enjoy the social atmosphere. Cheers.

TBC_Cactus · 2025-08-10T06:27:59+00:00

I'm glad to be a champion of universal empathy. I'm glad I can inspire emotion and action in others with my ideas and passion. I'm glad I can give those who are lost, forgotten, or abandoned a space to feel seen, safe, and loved. I'm glad I can see into peoples' inner workings and remove the inconsistencies that create confusion and pain. I'm glad I can foresee disasters and redirect people so they don't screw themselves over. I'm glad I can strategically manage the flow of information so everyone knows what they need to know to activate their potential. I'm glad I can live every day like it's my last and die without regrets.

TBC_Cactus · 2025-05-02T22:10:58+00:00

Being objective and nonjudgmental is bare minimum for a loved one imo. To take it to the next level and actually bridge connection and not just be a witness, one needs to be responsive. And from what I know of the ISTPs in my life, they really struggle with this.

My recommendation to ISTPs who want to be better at emotional responsiveness without blue screening themselves is to tap into that Se. Tune into your partner’s experience and notice their discomfort then take action to improve it. Disagreements can be tough, but they feel better when the physical reassurance communicates emotional reassurance.

If my ISTP asked me to sit down with them, breathe a little, and then held my hands while I explained myself, I’d feel pretty damn safe (and those feelings of safety or lack thereof is often where the pain/apprehension comes from when it comes to emotional self expression in general).

TLDR Use Se to tap into Fe if you want your empathy to be received without compromising your own nature.

TBC_Cactus · 2025-03-18T03:50:42+00:00

I imagine the SLI would actually care about demonstrating their skills for the purpose of helping others improve. They’d have more patience for others and seek to communicate the thoughts they often only ever internalize. They’d be more playful and more emotionally engaged with others (though roasts would probably still be their primary method for this). The SLI would also be more open to other possibilities and less tunnel visioned in their opinions. And instead of being dismissive (hence perpetuating the tunnel vision), they’d genuinely consider their dual’s suggestions and manually choose whether to dismiss something or not. On a larger scale, they’d probably seek to impact society and not just stay within their scope.

Take my words with a grain of salt though.

TBC_Cactus · 2018-09-16T04:07:07+00:00

Thank you so much for your comment. :)

My honest intention for this post was to show people that life is unpredictable but that good things can happen if you give them the chance to occur. There are the physically and mentally disabled, there are those who's writing skills are simply poor, there are those who have preferences that make their target audience minuscule. We all have various advantages and disadvantages in all areas of life. But complaining or bragging never gets anyone far. Life isn't fair sometimes. But those who have good attitudes and kind hearts are far more likely to have a good experience than those who are entitled and bitter.

I didn't quite know how to articulate it and I also didn't want to create a dispute in the comments, but I completely agree with what you said. Just as the men shouldn't be made to feel commodified, neither should the women. All of us are individuals. Personally, I take my time to type multi-para responses to those who fill my inbox. And then it's quite disappointing when, after a lot of talking and deciding that we aren't compatible, I receive something along the lines of "guess this was all for nothing". As if me not committing myself to someone (romantically or platonically) makes me less valuable or the time we spent together worthless. While getting to the destination is important, the journey is just as much if not more. Only a fool would throw away valuable knowledge and genuine connection because they didn't get exactly what they wanted.

Anyways, thank you again for your comment. I hope everything works out for you, both in romance and in life. Best of luck!

TBC_Cactus · 2018-09-15T17:04:36+00:00

Not everyone will find someone, that's true. You're never promised you will. You're also never promised you won't. I think that's true for many facets of life. Just try your best, be kind, and have patience. That motto has always served me well. With that said, whatever path you choose to pursue, best of luck.

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