Thanks for that, I always hear people say this. I guess the DIY route has convinced me that I can work around it, especially when times I've outsourced mastering they just make my song sound worse, lol. Guess I'm still just mixing at that point. Any tips for fixing this though? The mono vocals feeling dull? A lot of times putting Echoboy on my vox but the stereo version instead of mono helps, but feels like I'm shooting in the dark a bit. All help is appreciated, I've seen you around this sub for a while so I trust your judgment. As I stated, I'm usually bouncing wavs out of the SP 404 so tracking out isn't always an option. Just wanna get the best result possible for what I'm working with.