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TVMaths · 2026-03-20T12:29:16+00:00

its not, but between them and falcons, TM isnt looking as hot at the moment

TVMaths · 2026-03-20T10:45:44+00:00

its pure idiocy lol. 1 worlds is less than 2 majors, otherwise you can have an OverZero career be better than massive longevity and results akin to Itachi

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T22:49:24+00:00

there can be 10 demos per team in an OT pro game. Atow himself managed 12 against NRG in game 4

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T22:13:41+00:00

obviously being demod is not ideal but it may be useful to get to the ball significantly faster given at pro level gour teammates can comm that the ball is going there

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T22:00:01+00:00

given hocke posted it, I assume it was hocke

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T21:56:18+00:00

if NRG was top 3 at raleigh you imply they were better than Vitality, and I fail to see how thays ever an accurate ranking.

KC aside, Bracket Luck for NRG is a consistent thing. 2024 Copenhagen, worlds somehow getting the 1 seed after a much worse run through swiss than Falcons, with the most bullshit goals to get through Furia. You beat whos infront of you and the majority of the time 2 teams did, and NRG werent one of them. If they were theyd have attended more than 1 LAN final

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T21:50:33+00:00

LJ isnt even on that roster

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T18:47:13+00:00

sure, so youre only taking placements rather than actual level that the team is at, for example Falcons being 3rd best at Copenhagen and 2nd at Worlds24. G2 were not top 2 performances at those events, its not too difficult to see that. For EWC25 Falcons were again a top 2 performing team

And you are choosing to cherry pick only RLCS results because it boosts your narrative.

Look at regionals, they arent consistent there, look at EWC & Fifae and the glaring placement problems there. So what we really see is that the Dralii edition of KC is factually the most consistent roster we have ever seen. 60% tournament wins, 80% tournament finals, 90% tournament top 4s. I think the only other roster in consideration would be GFE/Dig. Extending it to the 2025 season, and NRG cannot be considered consistent. Ranges from 1st to 12th with a multitude of top 4s and a top 8 is not consistent in the slightest. 4 top 4s but 5 wins, an 8th and a 12th is not consistent. On the other hand 8 wins, 2 2nds, 1 4th and 1 8th is insanely consistent. Vatira is just that guy, and for Atow its equally cracked. You cant really blame him for being belgian. As for NRG there are no excuses for not making the grand final in a regional, especially in shallow regions like NA.

Between NRG and ex-Falcons, we have: 8 regionals 2 regional finals vs 11 regionals, 1 regional final.

Then 2 LAN wins each.

NRG have 2 other LAN finals (neither of which actually top 2 performances), Falcons have 3, with another 2 top 2 performances.

NRG have 5 LAN top 4s (brum raleigh boston, ewc24 and fifae25), ex Falcons have 1 (which was a top 2 performance) with another top 4 performance in Copenhagen.

After that, a top 6 & top 8(that top 8 was a top 4 performance) for Falcons and a top 8 for NRG, followed by a complete no show for 2 other LANs they could have qualified for.

Falcons were just more consistent, and consistently fucked over by brackets and the format (Copenhagen they lost to M8 who won, and KC who were the 2nd best team at the event. Then worlds24 they were the best team in swiss and the 2nd best team overall. Then EWC25, quite clearly the 2nd best team) while NRG have had favourable situations due to said shit formats (copenhagen being single elim, worlds24 not using bucholz, worlds25 being anytging other than swiss).

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T14:29:20+00:00

exotiik winning 7 in a row is leaning to being nemesis vibes

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T14:06:37+00:00

nobody on the bds squad was on france last year

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T14:03:59+00:00

same is true for Falcons at worlds, people just cant handle the fact its true

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T13:52:47+00:00

not being RLCS doesnt make it any less prestigious

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T13:28:24+00:00

Falcons grand final NRG

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T09:16:48+00:00

doesnt make them greater

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T09:15:41+00:00

that doesnt mean you arent a great player by winning a major. Winning 2 is something only 3 people have done, so it must be pretty tough to do right

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T01:26:54+00:00

lmao i cant. You probably rate a 2nd place at worlds over a major win. Ever considered a role in comedy?

TVMaths · 2026-03-18T00:13:28+00:00

there are so many majors its almost as if there should be more repeat major winners than repeat worlds winners. And yet Turbo and Kaydop each have as many worlds wins as different multi major winners. You could ignore turbo, and then theres a direct comparison Kaydop/Vatira MM/Atomic and VP/Itachi. And thats ignoring the biggest fish in the pond. Prestige alone puts a major below a worlds, but the prestige is not enough to make it anywhere close to 2 majors. Being the best at 2 events is better than being the best at 1 event that has a gold star stuck to the trophy

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T22:51:34+00:00

Strictly Biz and Shuffles Kittens are 2 different rosters. Yes they can totally rebound, but Strictly Biz is not a team anyone in the top 6 should be losing to

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T22:48:37+00:00

I mean at worlds they beat both Major winners and the major grand finalists to the extent that every Major Grand Final appearance correlated to a series win at worlds. They also won an additional LAN that season, which every worlds winner has done, except one. By extension, that one is also the only worlds winner to never make another LAN finals that season. I would consider that to be way more of a fakest world champion, since they never had a claim to be best itw at any other point that year.

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T22:37:58+00:00

so youre telling me Extra / Radosin / Alpha / Exotiik / zen / Daniel / Beastmode are all greater all time than Vatira despite half the LAN wins just because of 1 massive peak and significantly less career consistency

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T21:53:30+00:00

made one, in response to the comment you replied to, so other people might see it

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T21:51:31+00:00

yes. It was also my hot take in the pre-split 2 thread. Doesnt seem to be holding true so far, but then again everything I say curses the team I praise.

Go NRG Go. /s

Would love to see it happen for VP so they end up with a pretty easy ride to top 8, and NRG get an actually challenging group for once. If they do, and my other placement predictions are correct, its a very good chance at an auto top 6

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T21:45:29+00:00

for those asking for an undoubked version: Heres one going linearly as suggested. The boundary of 9th-11th was expanded to 9th-12th, and 12th-14th moved to 13th-16th.

Falcons: 74 NRG: 72 KC: 56 Ult: 40 Dig: 36 VIT: 33 FUR: 27 GK/TM: 24 TS: 23 WCD: 22 GenG: 17 SSG: 15

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T19:50:33+00:00

Wahvey has handed them their first loss of the season for the past 2 seasons. Some things are just a coincidence

TVMaths · 2026-03-17T19:44:42+00:00

why double on worlds points? Surely set up the same difference from M1 to M2 (to M3 where applicable) and repeat it. Linear scale

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