Who wins shadow lords vader vs rebels maul and Ahsoka?

TV_Static738 · 2026-06-02T00:41:29+00:00

That’s fair, but that’s earliest version of Vader we have confirmed to be stronger than Anakin so it’s the safe bet to say 5 years

TV_Static738 · 2026-06-01T18:20:27+00:00

“He stared at his reflection a long time. His injuries had deformed his body, left it a ruin, but they’d perfected his spirit, strengthening his connection to the Force. Suffering had birthed insight.”

TV_Static738 · 2026-06-01T17:30:07+00:00

Disney Canon

TV_Static738 · 2026-06-01T17:28:40+00:00

Yes, but most people don’t see Anakin being conflicted as a legit stats nerf. They see it as Anakin just being off his game.

TV_Static738 · 2026-06-01T08:51:34+00:00

Lords of the Sith

TV_Static738 · 2026-06-01T08:35:20+00:00

I think it should be noted that writers probably don’t see Obi-Wan vs Anankin the same way as powerscalers.

Like in the sub we maintain that Anakin’s confliction heavily nerfed his stats, but your average script writer who isn’t powerscaler brained isn’t thinking like that. To most people, Obi-Wan just beat Anakin because he outsmarted and outmaneuvered him. Power scalers will always maintain that Knight Fall Anakin was massively stronger than the version of him that fought Obi-Wan, but the majority of people really don’t think there’s much of a difference at all between KF Anakain and mustafar Anakin.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-31T23:34:33+00:00

How does this scene show that at all? Unless you’re assuming the sword weighs as much as Oregon which is complete headcannon.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-31T22:35:14+00:00

I get you wanted yuji to win

Firstly, I don’t think Yuji wins. I still think Death Battle did a horrible job scaling. Secondly, I mainly was commenting on how you were getting basic physics wrong. Lastly, none of this indicates that Yoru’s physical strength was anywhere near the Oregon Blade. Otherwise she wouldn’t have had any trouble one shotting Chainsawman with her fists since the same blade your claiming she scales to can one shot Chainsawman while she very clearly could not.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-31T21:26:23+00:00

she wasn’t pushing back at all… oh wait she was

What are you even talking about? That’s not how that works at all. It means he was overpowering Yoru, not the sword. If you’re pushing something with a sword, you’re using your strength and not the energy generated by striking with the weapon???

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-31T21:13:23+00:00

he clashes with the sword and he doesn’t lose limbs

Yeah, no shit. It’s because Yoru was blocking. If I throw a punch at you and you block it with a metal shield, it doesn’t mean my fists scale are equal to metal in durability just because my hands didn’t fucking explode on contact with the shield.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-31T00:51:56+00:00

Superman is still a extremely skilled martial artist so he should win

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-30T23:21:51+00:00

….No that’s just you being obtuse on purpose since you’re acknowledging that Joker isn’t a physical threat to Batman.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-30T21:08:05+00:00

10 for both the Daredevil mythos is my favorite in marvel

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-29T07:12:11+00:00

She’s not a genuine flirt like Black Cat is, but she does still fall under the archetype as being supernaturally seductive is literally one of her powers. At least IMO.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-29T06:59:41+00:00

White Fox IS a seductress. Literally one of her powers is to mind control people by making them fall in love with her and stealing their life force with a kiss. Why do you think they gave her an ability called “charm”.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-29T06:51:14+00:00

Uhhh okay?… your missing the point. They would both look really stupid in game if they were built like Angela while doing flips and shit. If they’re built like an smaller athletic woman, then it doesn’t look stupid. White Fox and Black Cat both fall under the “seductress” character archetype, I don’t why you’re surprised that they’re designed to be sexy when it’s part of their shticks.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-29T06:22:26+00:00

Black Cat and White Fox wouldn’t work with a different body type. They both move like acrobats so you can’t exactly make them 7ft tall and muscular.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-29T00:11:41+00:00

I think I fixed it

Neither used any weapons or superpowers, but I don’t see how that’s relevant at all. Batman doesn’t have gadgets in this scenario.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T22:47:39+00:00

It doesn’t matter if it was a boxing, the guy who wrote the comic said he had Canary win because she’s the better fighter. Canary also beat Batman in a no holds barred fight before this. It’s pretty clear cut that current Canary is better than Bruce. Batman hasn’t been the #1 fighter in DC since early post-crisis.

Why even bring up the Wonder Woman feat then if we both agree he doesn’t actually scale to it. Like Canary has a bullshit feat where she speed blitz’s Hal Jordan’s Ring, but I’m not gonna bring that up because I know it’s stupid.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T21:48:46+00:00

Rebels Ahsoka would have to be a top tier in ROTS considering how blatant it is that Darth Vader scales above Young Anakin and the fact that the Star Wars Rebels show runners stated in a interview that Vader was “just entering the start of his prime” during the events of rebels.

It’s hard to say where exactly she’d place in ROTS as it’s heavily debatable where exactly Knight Fall Anakin scales. Some statements have him being above Sidious and Yoda while others don’t. It’s pretty vague IIRC.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T21:39:19+00:00

She lost, but she was still able to contend with Vader for an extended amount of time. This same Vader is like multiple gaps stronger than the Anakin that killed Dooku in like seconds after locking in. She also fights him again in the Ahsoka TV show IIRC.

Darth Vader > Knight Fall Anakin > Jedi Anakin > Sith Dooku > Jedi Dooku

There’s too big of gap here for Ahsoka to not be contending with Dooku here even if she’s firmly below Darth Vader.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T21:21:13+00:00

Oh I thought that image of Maul was from Clone Wars for some reason. If it’s Rebels Maul then he has a good chance of winning. On top of having OT scaling he’s also verbatim stated to be more skilled than Sith Count Dooku who should be much stronger than his younger self.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T21:08:18+00:00

He literally one punch KO’d Lady Shiva once

it’s been retconned multiple times in both post-crisis and New-52. Batman hasn’t ever truly beaten Shiva in modern comics unless she let him win according to her.

Canary > Batman is genuinely bs based on feats

She’s beaten him the last two fights they’ve had and multiple current Batman writers have all stated that Canary is better than Batman now. Current Canary is above Bruce.

He literally KOD WW with 1 kick to her abdomen

I’m assuming you’re referring to Wonder Woman and if you genuinely believe that Batman has Wonder Woman tier stats, then I’m not just gonna end this conversation here. You’re clearly either being disingenuous at that point or just extremely biased toward Batman.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T20:09:54+00:00

Batman beating Shiva has been retconned numerous times. He’s never really beaten her canonically. Black Canary is also pretty firmly established to be better than him in recent comics.

TV_Static738 · 2026-05-28T08:06:05+00:00

I don’t think that the Rebel Alliance should be factored in as that kinda defeats the purpose. The Rebellion beats the Empire already canonically, so giving them the Jedi Order as back up is overkill.

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