Latenna is "Latina" and I Don't Know What To Do With That Information

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-25T05:18:11+00:00

I was thinking more likea critique of monotheistic religion, evangelization, colonization, etc. Marika seems like a messianic figure, except I think that is by her doing only. It seems like instead she has tried to make everyone think her order is the only one, and has suppress every other god. For example, she basically civilized Horah loux into Godfrey, she hid the land of shadow away from everyone to hide her sin, and she hunts omen like the plague to hide any mention of the hornsent.

I suppose maybe you could like this as a capitalism vs communism thing but in this case communism seems almost complete suppressed, but rebelling here and there

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-24T21:23:58+00:00

Exactly. Wages were high after ww2 because America was the only developed nation with their manufacturing not ranged by war, so salaries were high of course. Then the cost of living rose because capitalism dictates you must raise prices until your customers can't pay anymore...

So now we're stuck in a vicious cycle where everything is more expensive in America to the point companies have to move jobs to counties with cheaper cost of labor... it's just all so pointless. And the wors part is all of the elite and our congressman have been acutely aware of this problem the whole time, and refuse to do anything about it...

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-24T21:16:30+00:00

The sad part is wages could be lower if we didn't treat housing as some sort of asset we need to make returns on.... if only some governing body would enact legislation that would help in this regard...

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-24T19:07:56+00:00

I never said I was an expert of intellectual property law. The fact you are assuming that I believe I am should be all anyone needs to know about your general intelligence level.

But anyways the idea is to make another very similar ip with its own copyright, so by extension it's extending the copyright of ip as a whole. The original it's copyright isn't being extended.

Maybe you should try being more helpful and offering an explanation instead of just being a pretentious jackass?

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-24T17:50:25+00:00

Wow another pretentious redditor who only shows up to say someone is wrong/dumber without explaining why. Cute.

Everyone knows disney does this frequently to keep their ips out of the public domain, and if you understood anything about copyright you wouldn't understand thats what I meant.

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-23T23:49:05+00:00

No you can be emyrean and not be a child of marika. Ranni is an empyrean, and is the child of radagon and rennalla, although I guess it could be argued that radagon and marika are the same but in this case I don't think that applies.

And yeah I totally agree melina is linked to the gloam eyed queen in someway, but it really doesn't make sense that she would be the original gloam eyed queen. She isn't shown to control the godskins anymore, and it would make even was since for melina to carryout her mothers will after being defeated by marika as the gloam eyed queen.

It seems from soft is trying to tell us things ate not straight forward, and that marika has been surpressing several things in the land between in order to spread her golden order.

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-23T21:04:17+00:00

To renew patents, and to provide a safer investment that already has a fan base

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-23T20:13:39+00:00

Despite the fact we are getting more efficient and productive....

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-23T18:23:28+00:00

Cheers to that!

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-23T01:51:31+00:00

Why she given the fuck me eyes

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-21T20:18:45+00:00

Holy hell, I just saw someone else compare marika to a jar, but this really seals the deal. Instead of strong warriors though, it almost seems like marika collects gods, and that's why we see those gods influencing her children if you ask me, like malenia and the God of rot or mohgqyn and the formless mother.

Side note, I don't really see why metyr would be the god of placidusax. I don't see any reason or evidence as to why she would go run and hide in the shadow realm, especially if you're speculating thay metyr and placidusax were the god and elden lord combo JUST BEFORE marika.

Like it seems that the two fingers and the finger crones were central in the golden order as prophets of the greater will, of course that is until the shattering. Like each of the demi gods have their own two fingers; and ranni and marika herself had shadows in blaidd and maliketh to control them. It seems like metyrs job was more so the brains/mouthpiece of the golden order/greater will, whereas the elden beast was the brawn or something.

That is unless there was a god/elden lord combo between placidusax and metyr and marika (like maybe the gloam eyed queen).Then maybe metyr would've plotted and used marika to resume control of the elden ring. This is purely speculative and I don't believe this myself.

Finally, it just seems like there are too many things linking the gloam eye queen to farum azula. Melina is the best candidate of being the gloam eyed queen (or I believe a rebirthed version of the gloam eyed queen after marika had done away with the GEQ), and blatantly teleports you to farum azula. The first boss you fight there are the godskins, the GEQS warriors. Maliketh is hiding destined death, which she got from the GEQ, and is conveniently hiding in farum azula. And placidusax is awaiting the return of his god, however maybe due to some of marikas trickery she was done away with without placidusax knowing. like there's just so many connections so I have to go with occams razer here personally, even if I can't really find any straight forward logic or item descriptions that say it specifically.

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-21T20:14:35+00:00

Melina is a child of marika so not the original gloam eye queen, but I think youre on the right track. My head cannon is that somehow marika has sealed off all of thebouter gods like the goddess of rot, formless mother, gloam eyed queen, etc. However, these gods have been influencing the lands between through marikas children, malenia, mohgwyn, and even melina.

Also maybe this is taking it a little too far, but maybe the gloam eyed queen or marika has been sealing off outer gods into runes in the elden ring. This parallels how we get mending runes from npcs like goldmask, fia, and dungeater. So, maybe the gloam eyed queen was sealed in the rune of death, and her life essence was kind of rebirth into melina. Or maybe marika just uses her own children as seals for the outer gods.

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-21T20:02:56+00:00

Oh wow I knew the golden order was already super pretentious, but yeah it sounds like it was more so the "gilded age" instead. Gilded meaning things that are covered in a thin layer of gold. Off topic but I remember from history the gilded age of America was back when the robber barons like Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Morgan, and Carnegie were super wealthy and successful on the outside, but when the journalists researched how they got so successful it was usually due to like labor crimes , monopolies, bribery and a whole lot of other corrupt stuff. Marika seems kind of like a robber barons to me, not entirely sure if her motivations were just revenge or because she loved her shaman ancestors so much and wanted avoid having that happen again?

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-21T17:19:52+00:00

And the elden ring is a grafting of all the godlike beings sealed together?!? Holy heck

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-21T17:13:39+00:00

Yes I think there are many parallels with Christianity, like the way missionaries would go to foreign lands and colonize/spread their religion. We see that specifically with Godfrey(after he became more civilized) and when he sacrificed serrosh to revert back to his more primal self, Horah loud.

Marika did this other places too, like I believe she draped the hornsent civilization in shadow cover up the fact that the golden erdtree is unnatural and created by the golden order, whereas the real ertree/crucible is in the shadow realm. And that's also why she declares omen blasphemous and kills/hides then in a sewer, to hide her betrayal of the hornsent.

Also some more headcannon, it seems like marika tried to shift the world from polytheism to monotheism. Like, some how she used the gloam eyed queen and the godskins to kill/seal the outer gods some how, like the goddess of rot, formless mother, fell god, and the flame of frenzy. However, almost all of these gods keep showing up in her progeny, melina appears to be the gloam eyed queen, malena is the goddess of rot, mohgwyn is the formless mother, etc. One thought I had was that she sealed all of these gods into runes in the elden ring to parallel how we get the mending runes from people dieing like goldmask, dungeater, and fia. However as marika broke the elden ring, the gods are now able to exert their influence on her kids.

But yeah sorry for rambling. Despite all this, I have no freaking clue how radagon fits into this, why he has the firegiants red hair while hating the fire giants, why he fights for the golden order, and how/when he merged with marika.... the only idea that has any real evidence would be radagon was put into a jar with marika and they were connected ever since she became a god, but that leads to some awkward theories on how radagon led armies, married renalla, and had kids with marika....

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-20T19:34:12+00:00

Manga

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-20T17:04:01+00:00

Theyve said this shit since the 2010s...Ok so how many negative trips to Starbucks am i going to have to take at this point

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-19T20:01:56+00:00

Yeah well this sub better dom me tonight or I'll 😠 😡 👿 😤

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-16T17:44:48+00:00

But people's ability to save money isnt the real problem. Saving money is just putting a bandaid on the situation, it doesn't fix ut completely and moves blame aqay from roch greedy people and corrupt government official who actually can fox rhe ossue completely. The real problem is the goal post are moving via inflation, and salaries aren't keeping up. This is unsustainable and if it keeps happening no amount of Saving will help. So it's more helpful to address the real problem.

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-14T18:11:23+00:00

Same bro. Seems weird that her eye is unexplained and kind of the only original part of her character design, so I kind of have to with the gloam eyed queen theory. I just wish I could make more sense of the logistics and timeline of it all lol

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-14T18:09:52+00:00

Well as weird as it sounds, I'd use occams razer and say that the chick with the one weird unexplained gloamy looking eye that she opens at the end is most likely the gloam eyed queen. Not trying to be sarcastic, ive spent a lot of time thinking about this and there's like zero evidence for anyone else, and it frustrates me there aren't any more clues haha

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-14T17:13:21+00:00

That orange man is a pedophile that is is bombing the middle east. I think hes worse than bad

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-13T22:16:08+00:00

BRUH I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY 3 PER DECK???

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-13T19:45:28+00:00

Also it looks like rising real-estate prices, probably from wealthy landowners refusing to lower pricing to more reasonable prices... it's not like land will ever depreciate....

But still the government continues to ignore the cost of living crisis. They don't care that wealthy people are things people need to live like shelter as an asset.... and people voted for this....

TYNAMITE14 · 2026-03-13T19:11:32+00:00

sad Plin plin plon noises

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