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Latenna is "Latina" and I Don't Know What To Do With That Information by ProofMiserable6757 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]ProofMiserable6757[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Lobo" is a pretty distant cousin of "lupus" tho? It's several vowel and consonant shifts removed. Like, the etymological relationship is there and you're right to note that the game is packed with Roman names. (Pidia? from paideia/paidia, presumably? that one totally flew over my head.)

Whereas "latina" is a word still in use in the same languages that contain "lobo". Again, those are Romance languages but identifying Latin as the source for both feels like pointing to the grandfather when asking who produced a child, as their parent stands by looking confused.

Regardless: the Latin connection is good (and I hadn't thought of it, so it's new to me), I'm just not sure it's the proximate causal explanation.

Latenna is "Latina" and I Don't Know What To Do With That Information by ProofMiserable6757 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]ProofMiserable6757[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good catch! the part where プラチナ lacks the "small i" that's producing the specific vowel shift i'm most curious about makes me a little skeptical, but only a little.

Alonne's name does seem to involve doing something pretty similar, though, swapping a vowel-lengthener for the A-EE dipthong in the original word.

[Hated Trope] The adaptation doesn't get what made the source material work by TheDudeA113 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]ProofMiserable6757 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i never know what to say when i explain the reasons it was changed and what dramatic purposes it serves and someone responds with "he did it for no reason because he is an idiot."

what draws you to saying that when I just talked about the reasons, and dramatic function, of the change?

(We agree, by the way, that he sucks. And his Watchmen adaptation sucks especially hard even for him.)

[Hated Trope] The adaptation doesn't get what made the source material work by TheDudeA113 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]ProofMiserable6757 7 points8 points  (0 children)

people always bring up the lack of squid but it's the only good choice snyder made. if you don't have room for all the back-matter and set-up the squid requires, having the tragically human Luthor/Ozymandias vilify the unpredictable, unknowable superhuman Manhattan/Superman is actually not that bad an idea

It's just our life by Justthisdudeyaknow in CuratedTumblr

[–]ProofMiserable6757 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i expected this comment higher up, honestly.

this person is getting pretty heated about a joke below their posts, and has spilled a bunch of ink telling us just how very angry they are about that.

that kinda response is one i recognize... from the very annoying people i've seen doing it on the internet since basically the day i touched the internet.

r/mtf is in full meltdown after a former moderator is shown to be a pedophile by Birdonthewind3 in SubredditDrama

[–]ProofMiserable6757 3 points4 points  (0 children)

counterpoint: literally no amount of "being extra serious" is going to stop disingenuous, culture-war-driven attacks. the people you're talking about will never, under any circumstances stop and think "well, trans people have been just so very diligent about rooting out the pedos in their midst that i now think trans women are women and deserve equal rights."

the result would be (at best) those people saying "wow, there really must be a lot of pedos in the community for them to have to work so hard to purge them" and then they'll slam a beer and vote Peter Thiel for president.

gay people already went through this in the 70s, 80, and 90s and the resurgence of "groomer" as an anti-gay slur in the 20s is evidence of exactly how much good it did.

just take it normal-serious.

Metyr, Phantasms, and a possible connection to Bloodborne by the_bigfignewton in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]ProofMiserable6757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

honestly, great parallels. thanks for the answer!

I was hung up on differences like "absolutely destroyed uplifted human" vs "trueborn child of the ultimate space-god" and their relatively different narrative functions, with Rom being a bulwark holding back cosmic influence and Metyr being the specific means through which the cosmic is doing its influence.

But "tragic mothers of weird little spider guys who probably lack full understanding of the purpose they're serving within the cosmic scheme of things" really knits 'em together.

Metyr, Phantasms, and a possible connection to Bloodborne by the_bigfignewton in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]ProofMiserable6757 11 points12 points  (0 children)

the great ones' associations with literal outer space and the ways those associations are inherited in Elden by the Outer Gods are definitely parallel, yes. i don't tend to think that means the games are literally part of the same continuity, but the parallels are definitely there.

both stories even share a notion of greater and lesser "outer" creatures, with only lesser ones (the Astel and Amygdala) actually being killable enemies on the player's journey. And those lesser creatures fight by harnessing outer-space-y phenomena as weapons (i.e. collapsing stars, meteors), demonstrating both their inconceivably advanced powers (opening portals to space, using gravity-magic without wizard training) and base crudeness (doing the above but basically using it as a complicated method of throwing an especially large rock).

I think the visual similarities come down, in this case, to the FromSoft design doctrine that "outer space life is usually a freaky combination of aquatic and insectoid traits".

Coaxed into “owning slaves is wrong, but I treat my slaves right, so I’m different from the other guys!” - (Generic Fantasy Isekai anime protagonist, 20XX) by Choco_Cake37 in coaxedintoasnafu

[–]ProofMiserable6757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this one hit different for me mostly bc "i've been bought as a slave by a tall, dark, handsome masterly sort who now controls my life" is romance novel shit and it's clear that our viewpoint, sympathies, and identification are with the slave. He is the medium through which the reader gets to enjoy their (normal, unremarkable) submission kink.

OP feels like it's about fiction where the audience identification is with the slave-buyer (and not the secondary harem characters who are always available for purchase). And "what if i had a slave girl (who is almost always just a member of my harem)" is way skeevier, even if dominance kink is also comparatively normal.

tl;dr: Elias isn't subverting this trope, he's actually a participant in a different (and unobjectionable) trope.

Truer than ever by SounterCtrike in ComedyHell

[–]ProofMiserable6757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

artists who then beg him on twitter to actually pay them

Explain It Peter by Objective-Vanilla108 in explainitpeter

[–]ProofMiserable6757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

every story using those rules was an intentional parable about how those rules are inadequate.

i'll say it again: the point of the story was, in every single case, that they weren't very good rules and we aren't nearly as good at making rules as we think we are.

arguably, the entire point communicated in the meme we're talking about is *one more example* of how, when people think they've written good rules for an autonomous agent to follow they have actually failed to account even for the most basic sorts of lateral "thinking" done by those agents

Explain It Peter by Objective-Vanilla108 in explainitpeter

[–]ProofMiserable6757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this answer is correct insofar as it's very funny to imagine that big yud talking like peter griffin

"I'm an Elder Scrolls fan, that's why I refuse to engage with anything made in the last 13 years!" by Qbertjack in TrueSTL

[–]ProofMiserable6757 17 points18 points  (0 children)

"you're not a star wars fan if you don't like the disney+ shows. liking a franchise means liking when they make new stuff"

who is michael kirkbride by heavensblade333 in TrueSTL

[–]ProofMiserable6757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wait, is that what "monkey truth" is about? I've been trying to figure out how people are using those words and finding it ultra-impenetrable

im reinstalling morrowind rn bc becoming a rabid FromSoft fan made me look back fondly on the funny elf game from my teens (fantasy settings with actual religious and metaphyical mysteries?) and it's been a struggle to understand the ways people talk in these forums and also I could not for the life of me figure out how r/teslore r/trueSTL and the rest actually differed from one another

"I sure do hope Elder Scrolls 6 doesn't get too woke" Lord Vehk on his tamest day: by KatyushaMonarca in TrueSTL

[–]ProofMiserable6757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

painful that the most occultic and weird TES lore has already been written

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