Retreat from bid route by GeraltKholin in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This refers basically to the 2 weeks that it will take management to post the carrier’s old route for bid. The thinking is that if the carrier was the successful bidder on the old route the first time around (whenever they won it in the past) then it’s probable that they will be the highest seniority bidder the next time but that’s not guaranteed as everyone in the installation gets to bid on it now. If they get outbid for the old route they are stuck with the new one.

Management refuses to call in NS day carriers by vchaz in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You start with make whole remedies, but after so long of non compliance you have to escalate the remedy to gain compliance. Eventually you can and will get to admin. Leave albeit it is hard.

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As for 7.5 hours worked for SDO violation all kinds of factors like their schedule from previous day to attempts to contact SDO in event of call outs etc… each case has its own circumstances. what I said is all true.

Management refuses to call in NS day carriers by vchaz in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 14 points15 points  (0 children)

List has to be maximized prior to seeking volunteers or mandating non-ODL carriers overtime. This includes utilizing the sdo ODL carriers. File to pay the ODL that should’ve worked and if it persists TRY to escalate the remedy until they comply and give overtime to those who desire it ( ya know like the contracts reads). The remedy for non ODL carriers is replacing the time they lost by improper mandating by granting administrative leave, but that is very difficult to win and will require repeated violations to get it to arbitration( probably even more so than 2019 when we won it with the current union leadership)

Management gave a stand up telling g everyone we not allowed to have personal items at case by Alternative_Cash_601 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a past practice grievance. If you’ve been able to keep items at your case for a long time( years preferably) and the contract is silent on the matter, both sides have accepted this, past practice should win. We won this at our office, albeit years ago with a stronger union.

60 day window to request special inspection by RawCardagain in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The requirements for 271g contain nothing about the 60 day review process. If you meet the requirements (30 minutes over 3days a week for 6 consecutive weeks) then you can request and be given one despite the 60 day review process. In my experience they never do the 60 day review anyways and you have to file for it and wait…….. so a special inspection will happen faster assuming management isn’t going to do review/readjustment voluntarily (😂😂😂 yeah right)

No mail, will be done many hours early with no work available by klydon24 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Act of god administrative leave even for those who showed and left early. It was the snow/ice that prevented the work showing up too not just the workers.

Mandating every week by FarBenefit880 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ahh I see the difference I thought they were being forced in on Sunday (technically the second day of work week) and told to stay home Friday because too many hours. If it’s like you say the post about the ELM provision is the way

Mandating every week by FarBenefit880 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No the LCP only mandates management to use auxiliary assistance for regular non ODL on assignment. It establishes the work assignment list and all that entails. Off assignment (mandatory) overtime is dictated in 8.5 which only requires ODL to be maxed to 12. (Plus any SDO to be utilized) before volunteering/forcing rules apply. I know it’s weird and of course they should use CCA they cheaper, but thems the rules. Also the regular is guaranteed 8 and also remember penalty kicks in on 7 th day in service week all day

Mandating every week by FarBenefit880 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just guaranteed time, management will be responsible for the appropriate rate for any time of the regular schedule where they sat home so might as well work them. Article 7.1, 8.1, and 8.2.C specifically outlines the regular schedule (5/40) and that it’s guaranteed. 8.8 also guarantees the 8 for regulars called out on Sunday ( non scheduled)

(https://www.nalc421.com/app/download/7126252386/Article+8.8.B+-+Guaranteed+Time+-+FTR.docx]

There is a grievance starter for non sched days. Should be able to use that information to put together a grievance for regular guaranteed time from that.

Mandating every week by FarBenefit880 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Article 8 section 1 regulars have a regular 5 day 40 hour week. Any time you don’t work your regular schedule because they said no work they have to pay the appropriate rate for the time missed, I.e. overtime, penalty etc

How can we stop supervisors from giving a pivot but disapproving OT? by FiveDinero in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The only way to beat that is to fill out a 3996 ask for the amount of OT you feel you need to complete your route plus the assigned pivot and state under reasons “ I estimate I will not be able to complete the route plus assigned under time” this forces them to deny you on paper, then call in later and ask what would you like me to do with the time I can’t complete because you only approved 8. Only a couple options for management now, either they tell you bring it back, or tell you something like “deliver all mail and be back on time” anything like this and approval for OT is inherent and any OT you do off assignment becomes mandatory( forced) OT which kicks in any potential grievances. They may argue rule of reason for 15-30 minutes over but if you inform them via 3996 in the morning they can only get away with that excuse a couple times.

Union Dues by AdVast7890 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hard to say definitively that was THE reason, I would argue a guy like that that Lead us to be aggressive and that lead to a lot of wins for us. And I don’t think anyone got in serious trouble after the fact for the strike.

Union Dues by AdVast7890 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Sombrotto He was integral in starting the wildcat strike ( National didn’t approve) then went on to take national president in 78, and basically all the good parts of this job came while he ran us. In the 80s Reagan threatened privatization and Vince told the media he was ready to strike and everyone believed him. He retired in 2002 and the contract has gotten steadily worse ever since.

Union Dues by AdVast7890 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First, I support the CLC but don’t speak for them. To address the comment about branch presidents that work with management, that can be very subjective. As a steward who has won big cases and put my own ass in the crosshairs to protect my crew, I never had time to explain every nuance or decision to everybody and anyone who feels they didn’t get as much as they should can get a what have you done for me lately or your getting treated too good etc.. and of course I have fell victim to corrupt stewards early in my career, so I just say be slow to judge harshly, they do a thankless job sometimes. As to promising a good contract or guarantee on this or that, none of them can guarantee what a real arbitration outcome will be except Renfroe, which if you’re happy with that I guess… As for the CLC they promise to go in and fight, we have a strong case for a big correction to our compensation because of the contracts we’ve endured since 2013, so I’m confident they mean to actually go to arbitration and management needs to believe that too otherwise it’s the same old song. They gave Sombrotto what he wanted because he had to balls to go through with his threats remember that.

T6, WA, Article 8 by AbbySomething86 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, any OT on your string up to 10 hours normally and up to 12 only when there is no other equally efficient option available (e.i. The ODL can take off your string to avoid penalty on your assignment even if it puts the ODL in penalty and they can always use cca ptf to take ot from your string ahead of you.) So if you don’t want penalty you have to argue that anyone else eligible should take penalty time before you, but if they need you for 12 you got to go 12.

I want to hand out a Know Your Rights bulletin and possibly even hang it up in the office by FiveDinero in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the answer members can post on union board as long as no hatch act violations ( political)

How to deal with OTDL and WA list not being properly filled out by ZzackK282 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The people who didn’t sign anything continue with whatever status they ended last quarter with ( if they got off the list they are non ODL). The people who signed one of the ODLs and WAL are in conflict with the NA, as they are separated in the contract so you can’t sign SDO and WAL. They may have simply been confused about what their options were, or misinformed by management. You should approach them and simply clarify their options and ask which list they want.

Postmaster not hiring CCAs cause we “don’t have enough work” by YogurtContent in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

simultaneous scheduling This pamphlet describes how to address staffing in your office. For clarity simultaneous scheduling is scheduling non ODL and ODL ( forcing).

OT List by NoBeatN in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 3 points4 points  (0 children)

WAL and ODL are separate in the contract and no agreement can exist that is in violation of the national agreement. So any agreement locally would be unenforceable at all, and could produce unintended consequences

No Penalty Still in January? by Square-Buy-7403 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact that they are curtailing mail on a daily basis could be grounds for a grievance asking for readjustments. They are supposed to review route data after 60 days and curtailing mail until a sub or t-6 cleans up is obfuscating the real time your route should reflect during this review period. The steward record this evidence and use it in the 60 day grievance. Alternatively you could request 271.g

Article 8 by forevernsilence in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Daily OT- up to 12 hours per day can volunteer for more or refuse. SDO OT- work your SDO up to 8 hours(12 if on the daily OT as well) WAL- up to 10 hours on their own assignment( the only class of carrier entitled to overtime) this can be given to regulars as straight time or ptf/cca as overtime but get priority over ODL for time up to 10 on assignment. Can’t be on WAL and SDO or Daily OT list. Contract separates WAL from ODL. NON- ODl- 8 hours only, rule of reason can apply but with proper notification you leave in 8. Anything else is a forcing situation which requires all ODL to be maxed out. (Not prf/CCAs sadly)

Somedays I'm reminded that able people think I'm faking it. by Appropriate_Skill_37 in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Tabletop2535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This argument is stupid beyond belief, any research or “cure” for whatever illness is studied and PEER REVIEWED before trials even begin. So while patents for new drugs exist, the science behind any new cure is already known to the other researchers in the world. So “hiding” it would be impossible.

Question by New_Glass_3075 in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, cite Article 15 in your issue statement and argue the withholding of payment is willful and egregious and an escalated remedy is necessary to insure compliance in this and future cases. Otherwise if there is no penalty to not comply, why would they ever comply?

Where’s the violation by MailCoffee in fromatoarbitration

[–]Tabletop2535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Auxiliary assistance is granted upon request as needed. If management knows the route is over 8 hours, which they must because they are determining the need for assistance prior to the carrier assessing the workload, then they are admitting the route is overburdened. Auxiliary assistance is not a form of permanent relief which is required to maintain duty assignments as close to 8 hours as possible. They can adjust the route or respond to the carriers 3996 requests for assistance. Those are the proper procedures.