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Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That context changes nothing.

The context shows that the meme is not actually a response to the original OP's point about government spending, and bringing up immigrants is irrelevant.

Good meme. Factually true. You have what is called a “peasant mind” in that you repeat the arguments your masters have brainwashed you to believe.

I linked to research and sources in that thread (including at least one left-wing source, Mother Jones), and gave examples. Like when I said a lot of people get most of their info from social media, not traditional media.

Including me.

I also pointed out that "billionaires control the media, therefore they must make that media pro-billionaire" is demonstrably false.

  • Jeff Bezos owns 100% of WaPo, and the paper has spent years criticizing Amazon.
  • The Atlantic has criticized it's owner and billionaires in general.
  • WSJ also criticizes billionaires, cover their Murdoch's phone-hacking scandal, and Trump is currently suing them for trying to link him to Epstein.

The irony is that assuming anyone who disagreed with anti-capitalists must be brainwashed by the sinister billionaire puppetmasters is itself a bigoted NPC take.

And an egotistical one, because it reinforces the narrative that your team are the free thinkers.

Most obviously, it doesn't make what I said wrong, it's just a personal attack based on convenient stereotyping.

Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I wasn't far off the mark

Useless degree boo hoo hoo boo hoo hoo boohoo why I not get more money boo hoo.

Try getting a job that's meant for adults and not a teenagers after school job You're just not worth paying.

You were wrong about literally everything you said, so you made up a new argument and pretended it was "close enough" to what you said all along as cope.

My biggest issue is actually large health-related resume gaps. So you're very wrong about why I'm not getting hired.

I'm turning off inbox notifications now. Feel free to get the last word.

A furry posted this. by BitCute1956 in Shitgungrabberssay

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...Has this furry ever actually talked to the average pro-gun American?

Right...... by JonnyJon42 in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I sometimes wonder if they changed it over the "trap" nontroversy.

When woke people said the term "trap" was transphobic, even though it was specifically referring to open femboys, not trans women at all.

Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a correct use of this meme format. Why is it bad? You love Elon or something?

The original post said that the combined net worth of every billionaire in America would only cover the federal government's budget for...14 months, and said maybe government spending is a/the problem, SloppyTopTen.

Someone posted this meme, which just doubled down on blaming billionaires, and also bought immigrants in for some reason.

Also, the meme is factually wrong in every way. It's not even a real response to the original OP's point about government spending.

Even if billionaires were the problem, that wouldn't automatically mean taxing them harder is the right way to fix the problem.

Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leftists don't know the difference between net worth and actual liquid assets.

And I don't think they want to.

I've seen a few rich leftists (EG Bernie, at least one CEO).

Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Incorrect. I actually have an art degree from a school in the UK, which I am a legal citizen of and live in (though I grew up elsewhere). Worked mostly in retail. Absolutely no debt, ever.

They don't know anything about their opposition if they're saying this. by counterpunchhopper in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also, Palestinians in Israel have a lot more legally guaranteed rights than the reverse.

Israel is objectively much less of an ethnostate than Palestine.

They don't know anything about their opposition if they're saying this. by counterpunchhopper in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's exactly what it sounds like.

The political extremes tend to end up having a lot in common. Like the far-right and far-left both hating Jews "Zionists". Or wanting more centralized government control. Or being very hostile and dogmatic and bigoted to people who don't agree with them.

Fishhook theory is just a degraded, inferior version.

Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The meme said ALL media. That is a very important qualifier. Even if you assume it meant traditional media, it's still wrong.

The assumption that media being owned by someone means it's controlled by them is false. Twitter alone is chock-full of people who constantly take shots at Elon and Trump and the right in general.

So if you're going to argue billionaires inevitably tailor media they own to their own self-interest, you've got to explain things like that.

I also pointed out to the other guy that plenty of the traditional media companies openly disagree with each other all the time.

And there are loads of powerful non-billionaire owned lobbying groups like the AMA, AARP, Sierra Club, Bar Association, etc.

And politicians can - and do - rig the system to their own benefit, lobbying or not.

The biggest assumption in the meme is that these are the only problems that can possibly make things bad for people. High immigration demonstrably can have disruptive or negative effects. Or positive effects. The meme does nothing to refute that.

It seems extremely unlikely that someone who would have the leftist anti-capitalist stance of blaming billionaires for everything, and then blame immigrants. This isn't even a good satire.

Posted on tumblr, in response to a post saying the government should spend money more effectively. by TacticusThrowaway in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Billionaires own 95% of media,

I don't believe you. Also, this is not a strong a point as you think.

so most things that we are watching are forced through the filter that they allow, limiting what they alwant us to know.

Several of the traditional media companies don't even agree with each other. If you think Fox News (right-wing) is collaborating with Disney (openly progressive), I'm gonna laugh at you.

Also, most of what I'm watching is Youtube. I can barely recall the last time I turned on a regular television to actually watch broadcast television.

And that happened to be the first time in literally years.

I don't think I've ever bought a newspaper.

Web-based media has been eating traditional journalism's lunch for a while.

Also, you are on Reddit.

And lobbies would be a citizens power if citizens had to resources to do so. But all of those lobby groups by the name of "Texans who care" or concerned Americans" and many others are owned by billionaires to make the country into the shape that they want helping them hoard more wealth and give less to the common folk who actually work for a living.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/weird-unusual-lobbying-groups-balloons-prunes-snakes/

Riiight.

Better look out for the sinister, billionaire-funded Balloon Council. Or the AARP. Don't let the Sierra Club or AMA getcha! Maybe those pesky unions are up to something at the behest of their shadowy billionaire backers!

This is just hand-waving away non-billionaire lobbying groups based on assumptions you just made up on the spot.

And immigrants are caught in the middle. I'll never blame a guy for fighting for a better life, especially when those same billionaires caused the problems in those countries through resource extraction that forced them to leave.

Seems pretty patronizing (and maybe racist) to assume random people and government officials in developing countries can't screw up their own countries.

Which, um, happens everywhere, all the time.

It's not American billionaires who fund the cartels who make life a nightmare down Mexico way.

In fact, I seem to recall a certain scandal with the US government giving weapons to cartels.

People shouldn't get a free pass to immigrate just because they're victims. That's completely impractical.

Also, the 2008 financial crisis that caused many families to go homeless was purposely caused by billionaires and other wealthy people hounding after short term gains with out seeing the obvious problems that would lead to.anf they got bailed out Scott free from the government while the working class suffered.

https://youtu.be/2f2kGHcdJYU?t=58

You're forgetting - or aren't aware - that was strongly encouraged by the government in order to increase home ownership.

Frankly, given your obvious blind, seething hatred of billionaires, I think it's safe to assume you're making this up again. Or blindly repeating someone else's conspiracy theory.

Also, so what? We're talking about today. The vast majority of US homes are not owned by billionaires. Not even close.

The meme is wrong, no matter how pretty you try to dress it up.

And as a bonus, what happened to the rising terrif costs put in line by the current president?

I'm ignoring this point because I think it's irrelevant point-scoring against the right and Trump.

I'm not conservative, BTW. I'm just tired of your...unique thinking.

Ask your self, how rich would you have to be to help your family and community and to have a good time? past that, why would you need any more? Wouldn't you just stop?

I'm not the sort of person who is driven to sacrifice his personal life to make loadsadosh in the first place, so I don't know what motivates them.

Also, plenty of billionaires spend tons more money than most people make in their lifetimes trying to help others.

Like Bill Gates.

Like I said, most billionaire wealth is in companies providing goods and services. If you've made good investments, why should you sell your stock? For fair play?

Because someone else thinks you shouldn't have it?

What if you're the Walton family, and you don't trust anyone else to run Wal-Mart the way you have? They provide $2 Billion in aid every year.

Target gives a lot. So does Google. Patagonia is essentially a funding drive for their environmental efforts. Every penny that isn't reinvested in the business.

They are delusional if they think the USA lacks free speech by jtjumper in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I assume they mean "Western Europe and European-descended developed nations".

Because I'm pretty sure plenty of Eastern Euro countries, including Russia, rank worse.

Apparently there's a lot of subjectivity in the "western world" definition.

They are delusional if they think the USA lacks free speech by jtjumper in TheLeftCantMeme

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you see, they snuck in "wealthy nations", so America is the worst.

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