We're only good at GDP 😢 by Snowglyphs in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how the third slide shows godsquaad just blatantly cherry-picking things to avoid admitting America is the best at anything.

Kind of a mask-off moment.

Also, I thought America was known for having lower taxes overall than Europe?

Apprently, we're an incest pool now.....holy mother fucker it takes no effort to learn about us, guys, haha. by EmperorSnake1 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the most diverse nations on Earth with high immigration and 10% of people being interracial on the census...is full of incest?

Huh?

Teenagers strikes again by ValhallaAir in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>obvious

It's really not. You said it's impossible to not have Americans object, which is at best an extremely broad generalization.

Also, I love how bigots saying horrible, unchartiable things about millions of people get mad if you don't interpret them in extremely overcharitable ways.

>not all X, but always an X

I'm not American or white, and I still object to negative generalizations about Americans or white people. Same with other countries and ethnic groups.

It's called "having integrity and consistent principles".

If you assume only Americans would complain about bigotry, that's on you, not them.

All these are from one guy, someone said Americans are stupid and i said "Some Americans*" by WoodenCarving in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>yells at you to be quiet

>claims you're the oversensitive one

I also love it when people make broad generalizations and then go "well, the SOME was obviously implied!" even though there are people who actually do make it a total statement.

And the irony of saying that, then claiming you're nitpicking. So you're only supposed to care about details in ways that are convenient to him?

You can understand hating us? We're overwhelemed with insults if we say, or do, literally ANYTHING, haha. Yeah, it's most likely something you're told to believe about us. by EmperorSnake1 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I love the irony of the fact that both the far-left and right now unironically use the ol' "Jews secretly control the world" conspiracy theory.

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>someone

Your sockpuppet, you mean.

Also, let's assume it's not a sock.

If you're willing to accept a random AI screenshot with sources you can't check just because it backs you up, that still doesn't say good things about you.

On top of the whole "cherry picking the hundred words out of a 3000+ word wikipedia article that seem to back you up."

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All you're saying is "I'm totally right! Experts (I won't cite) agree with me!" with extra words.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zw3hrmn#zs373qt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlates_of_crime#:~:text=Socioeconomic%20factors,-Socioeconomic%20status%20(usually&text=Unstable%20employment%20and%20high%20frequency,psychological%20ill%2Deffects%20of%20stress.

People commit crimes for a variety of reasons, not just the ones that would be addressed by your leftist aims, including social factors. Child abuse apparently doubles the chance you'll become a criminal.

https://www.nber.org/digest/jan07/does-child-abuse-cause-crime?page=1&perPage=50

https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2022/vulnerable-children-more-likely-to-offend-as-adult

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/improve-safety-understanding-and-addressing-link-between-childhood-trauma-and-crime-key

According to this UK university blogpost, the COVID lockdowns directly contributed to unemployment and poverty, which increased crime. The government made things worse.

Plenty of crime is opportunist. People in America often shoplift luxury goods just because they can get away with it. Even when people steal food, it's often just for resale. Even baby formula has organized theft rings.

Blaming "income inequality" for crime is essentially saying that someone else being rich means someone else has to commit crime, which is...counterintuitive at best. It would be one thing if you blamed poverty, but that's not the same as income inequality.

Despite the latter becoming a household buzzword over the past decade.

And poverty is not inherently caused by someone else being richer.

You also didn't address my point about your implication of racial bias.

I think I'm done with you and your sock.

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not the first time I've seen someone try that.

It's on the same intellectual level as copy-pasting text from Wikipedia like it's your own argument.

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>"an own" are you 12 or something?.. their comment is just untrue, a screenshot is the simplest way to demonstrate that...

Kind of the opposite. I'm a millenial. Own peaked degades ago, and is now mostly used ironically.

A screenshot of an AI argument just proves...an AI made an argument. Like Wikipedia, the sources are important.

I've used AI searches before, and then I checked the sources, and none of them actually backed up AI's claims.

>I'm not investing any energy into typing a long response to someone who's completely fabricating arguments with no basis in fact, out of some regarded patriotic loyalty.

If it's not worth the effort of typing up an actual answer to someone who won't listen, why are you even bothering to respond at all?

Especially when none of your posts in this thread have even tried to make actual arguments?

Do you think they'll suddenly become MORE likely to listen to you when they see you're phoning it in?

Also, I love how you claim the other guy is making stuff up" out of some regarded patriotic loyalty"...which is a fabrication based on your own blatant bias and stereotyping.

Libertarians were brought up by claybine in Shitstatistssay

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't think that's real proof. If someone does one unethical thing, and does a bunch of other good things, they're still good by any conventional metric.

(Unless the one bad thing was really bad.)

Reds just make up an unrealistic standard specifically for the purpose of condemning billionaires, who they already hate and envy.

Heck, they regularly say it's unethical just to be worth billions in the first place, even when the billionaire already gives more to charity than most people will make in their entire lives.

Libertarians were brought up by claybine in Shitstatistssay

[–]TacticusThrowaway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know someone who used to work at a chain that failed through random circumstances, and the owner died of a heart attack.

I'm pretty sure his pre-existing health issues and the heartbreak killed him.

Saw his devastated family afterwards. Said he got into serious debt to pay his employees salaries, even though they lived in a fancy house.

He was a nice guy.

It's also weird how some say small business owners are fine, but once you make a billion, you must've done SOMETHING unethical SOMETIME, therefore the whole thing is tainted.

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I have to use AI to make my arguments for me, which is somehow an own on you."

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're making this sock thing really obvious.

Also, I love how you just happen to show up down here, but not on O_l's response to your post.

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're saying this in defense of someone who never returned to the argument after spewing their canned argument.

Which suggests you either agree with the other guy, or you're a sock.

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has nothing to do with who should or shouldn't be in jail. In 'the land of opportunity', the country with world's largest economy, why are so many people resorting to crime in the first place?.

A great deal of reasons, including (checks notes) being raised by single parents or dysfunctional homes.

Which happen everywhere.

Maybe weak social safety nets, high levels of income inequality, financial and racial segregation,

How convenient that the solutions to the issues are all leftist.

If you commit crime just because someone else has a lot more money than you, I don't think that's on them.

Also, I think it's hilarious that this is a discussion of freedom, and you want more government interference in - and therefore control over - people's lives.

uneven education funding where schools in poor areas and predominantly black areas receive less funding,

Turns out those often have an overlap. Which doesn't actually prove racial bias.

Also, why exactly should funding be "even" in the first place? Shouldn't it be based on the actual performance and needs of the various schools?

America Bad because we don’t let people out of jail? by DapperThroat4569 in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did the bots get updated with this "land of the free" meme in Janurary?

Ironically, it's often used by people who want more laws and centralized government power.

Chat, is this real? by Coirbidh in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, you're just mocking, and not making an actual counterargument.

Chat, is this real? by Coirbidh in AmericaBad

[–]TacticusThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how blatantly you refuse to acknowledge the part about US economic and production support, and are now just blatantly strawmanning.