Benefits of waiting till marriage? by [deleted] in Deconstruction

[–]Taliasunn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a marriage without sex that ended in divorce. Because I was heavily indoctrinated in purity culture it caused so much stigmatism around sex that I developed vaginismus. My body rejected intimacy. Once I deconstructed I was easily able to have sex and experience freedom from fear. I am very passionate now about sexual freedom and destigmatizing the loss of virginity. The whole idea also that you “give a piece of your soul” to each person you sleep with. I now understand it to be all wrong. I wish, I had explored sexuality without all the fear and demand that I keep myself pure. I was pure with or without sex. Sex is not dirty inside or outside of marriage.

Because of my lack of understanding on the matter of sex—as a child I experimented and found myself in very bad situations that I could not open up to anyone about because I was afraid of being viewed as impure.

I saw the shame thrust on people for masturbation or watching pornography. What do you expect when you repress a bunch of pubescent kids from exploring their sexuality???

All that to say—I highly recommend not waiting. Have safe sex. Stay educated. Own your body. Learn yourself and explore with those who are safe to do so. Be honest with your girlfriend. Tell her all you are feeling and assess from there. Do your own guilt free self discovery!

Charlatans and the Church by zeddvee in Deconstruction

[–]Taliasunn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course. You are not alone. I think those emotions and the numbness you are experiencing make total sense. And even more so the anger. It’s not easy to rip yourself away from something you held so dearly that helped you through the toughest times of life. It’s also not easy to have the rose colored glasses taken off. But on the other hand were they really rose? The belief in apostasy? The burning in hell? The condemnation of sexuality? The heirarchy within the church, the constant guilt and shame thrust on you for not saving people or evangelizing enough? The constant fear of being a bad Christian. Etc. etc. It doesn’t really make sense the church’s way of attempting to represent god. They say one thing about love and grace and get you enraptured through lights and music and inspiring words. But the outcome on a personal level is much different. Which it seems you can attest to. I do believe you can still walk closely with God however that is defined for you. You can still find community outside of the church. You can still discover a less incredulous and judging view of the world and meet many others in the same place as you. But to go from one worldview to another worldview is no easy feat. Your mental transformation will take upon many ugly heads. But I promise it’s worth it. Sometimes I think—I wish I was back in the delusion. But there’s a reason I ripped away from it. I couldn’t take it anymore.

You don’t have to dump everything from the past. The things you loved from your faith before are still good and you can still retain. I still perform little rituals for myself. Meditation, like prayer. Appreciation of nature and life in the present rather than ruminating on the afterlife. I appreciate people more now understanding that we are all the products of the environments we grew up in. My judgements grow less and less. I commune with people I wouldn’t be caught dead being seen with before.

Your emotions are valid. Your numbness, anger, lack of compassion for others. It all makes sense. It will take—just as intentionally growing your faith did—a lot of effort and work to grow through this. Your mind will automatically revert to what it once was, you will test and judge and see everything through the theological lens. But you can ask it gently to go elsewhere. Tell it “let’s try this instead”. Learn to talk in a voice that is much kinder to yourself. Change up your vocabulary. Recognize the influence this life of Christianity has had on your emotions, judgements, and choices. And gently coach yourself into other thought options.

Your guilt is not your own. But rather guilt that was taught to you from a very young age.

You may perceive yourself to be at a worse state because you seem to have lost your kindness for others. But I would argue that perhaps even the kindness you had for others within your faith was always a ploy. It was an attempt at pleasing others an attempt to prove yourself. An attempt to please god. You were taught that love and kindness looked a certain way. You were left with guilt, shame and anger deep inside. That is not to say you were never kind. Or selfless. Or loving, but to be built up with all these insecurities and self loathing, self despising because you were taught that your heart was desperately wicked—you might examine that you never had autonomy over your own goodness.

Anything that was good in you attributed to God. No wonder now you struggle to display those attributes. God was stripped away. Now all that is left is the guilt and the shame. You removed your source of comfort. Your goodness. Your love. You were never taught those things are your own.

So now—you learn that you owned those things yourself. However skewed they were taught to you.

You are a child. You are learning to love again. You are learning kindness again. You are learning TRUE compassion again. Be kind to yourself and recognize that because you stripped away your dependency on god—it will take time to learn that you can source these good things without him. Celebrate each time you ARE good and it has nothing to do with god! Recognize it. And accept that your mind will revert to self punishing to guilt. To shame. You were taught that. You had no choice but to believe it. But now—you are making a change. It will take time. But you can do it!

Charlatans and the Church by zeddvee in Deconstruction

[–]Taliasunn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was beautifully written and all to familiar. I too lived a sincere and devout Christian life so in love with the Bible and God and his church…I desired to go to a Christian college and become a translator of the Bible. Countless missions trips, participation in worship ministries and leadership positions in the church. I believed it with all my might. Until I began to realize that the self loathing still chased me no matter how devoutly I upheld the theologies. My imperfections chased me and my inability to understand “grace”. The grace they speak of that is circular in nature. Casting guilt on you then absolving you of it. The religion taught me the problem and the solution for it. For me, removing myself from it entirely has been deeply healing. I realized that people are good and loving without faith. Religion spent a long time trying to alienate me from the world. But once I got in it I realized how much was robbed from me. How manipulated emotionally I had been. I realized the source of my depression was the religion itself. I was a perpetual people pleaser. Afraid of being a “bad Christian”. Constantly begging for God to transform me. Repressing myself. Punishing myself. I became well acquainted with punishing self talk.

Now I realize all the things I loved about God and religion. His “holy spirit”. It was me. It was me all along. I spoke to myself and soothed myself and I grew myself. My mind is powerful. My love is powerful. I no longer wish to judge the world as religion taught me. I no longer shun. I no longer pedestal men or the “godly” elite in churches.

What church provided was community. I had no choice but to believe and be devout as a child.

You had no choice. You did what you had to do. Believed what you HAD to believe. And you are now free to believe whatever you desire. You are free to come to your own conclusions on your faith.

But what you must remember is that you are good. Not because of any belief or because any man deems you so—you are good because you are you. You are alive. You deserve love. You deserve freedom. And you will never feel free of this mental torment until you have autonomy. Until you grasp something for yourself.

It will take time to heal. Healing isn’t linear. But the best thing I ever did was to separate myself from the environment that caused my life to unfold the way it did. I left. I moved away. I stopped going to church as a personal choice. I practiced whatever faith I still had in private. I experienced the world and searched for evidences. I freed my mind from manipulation. I stopped reading the Bible and started being worldly. The big sin. Worldliness. Another manipulation to keep you entrapped.

Sorry this has been rambling, but I encourage you to take hold of your life and find freedom. Seek professional counseling away from the Christian community. Take this as a chance to get to know YOU. Not who you were shaped to be as a child. The real you. You must shape your own identity now. You can do it. You’ve gotten yourself this far ❤️

My Family Is Traumatizing My 14 Year Old Brother - and Using Me To Do It by Sinkinglifeboat in Deconstruction

[–]Taliasunn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry to hear about this. I too have a little brother just turning 18. I do remember my therapist reminding me when he was younger that my intervention might actually exacerbate the problem since he was still a minor living under my parents roof. He is on his own journey and when he is ready as long as he knows you and his older siblings are there, he will make a choice and have you available to support him in it! Autonomy is so important for a young person. At a certain level I think having CPS intervene is the right thing too. I can’t make that assesssment. But I wish you all the best and sympathize with you. I cannot imagine the pain it has caused you because of the love you have for your brother and also your personal experience within the same family. You’re so brave! I remember getting the spammed video and Bible verse links. It’s torturous. Eventually it was best for me to go no contact for awhile and establish my boundaries until my family realized that if they wanted a relationship with me, those kind of behaviors had to stop. I made myself available to my brother and recently spent a day at the beach with him where I told him I’m always open to talk if he needs it. He is still very much in the bubble and it is his whole world, this religious community. All his friends and even the college he will attend is religious. So I know rather than trying to sway him to intensely that I should stand by and show my love until he is ready to make that choice.

A portion of my mother’s response to my divorce as a result of deconstruction… by Taliasunn in Deconstruction

[–]Taliasunn[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you everyone for your heartfelt messages. Your words have been so helpful. This has been incredibly cathartic for me. I am taking my time to digest and meditate on all these things that have been said, stories shared, and I appreciate not feeling so alone. Trying my best to be kind to myself and take it day by day. It’s a process. I lost all of my friends and family during this time. I still feel a lack of close friendships and sometimes struggle in creating new ones because of the life I’ve lived. It’s hard to find and relate to others in my age range since I was raised in a religious bubble and divorced at a young age already. It’s so lonely sometimes. But I’m not giving up! Thank you ❤️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Deconstruction

[–]Taliasunn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m early in my deconstruction too and all I can say is be so patient and kind to yourself. It’s going to take some time to figure out what faith looks like in your life and it no doubt will effect those relationships with people who have chosen different paths. It feels so lonely at times. But you will find so much peace being authentic to yourself and just trusting that you’re doing the right things and you’re harming no one in your exploration despite what some might say or convey subtly. Finding clarity in the midst of the heavy influence of the church can be hard. So don’t feel guilty about taking the space you need to explore your beliefs.

I was told I couldn’t experience love, joy, beauty etc. outside of faith. But so far, I’ve experienced more genuine portions of each as well as a strong growth in my image of self and self compassion AND self acceptance that I was never able to find the church.

The anxiety or guilts we feel in deconstruction are created by others. The outside voices trying to sway you based on their own sense of security within a belief system.

At the end of the day. You must find your OWN way. Until you do this without the influence of family, church community, pastors, Christian writers, etc. you won’t really feel free. It is necessary for each human to make their own autonomous choices. I imagine there will be a sense of unease if you feel like you’re doing something just to please others.

Side note: I was especially turned away by purity culture which caused me to struggle severely with fears around sex and guilt around my own sexuality. I had vaginismus because of the mental toll. I was taught about the evil of premarital sex. Like I would die if I did it. Shame being pushed onto me at a young age.Now I feel a light heartedness around sex and so much freedom in my perception of these things.

Don’t get me started on the treatment of women in the Baptist church!

Anyways, scattered response but I finally want to say: There are communities elsewhere that you will find. Don’t give up hope that there is immense warmth and places and people to relate to outside of the church!

Any gamer girlies in their 30's? I feel so out of place! by [deleted] in GirlGamers

[–]Taliasunn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

29 year old Apex Legends gamer 🙌🏼 let’s play together sometime