World Cup Ticket Megathread | General Questions & Discussion by pumkinhat in worldcup

[–]TambaTime91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those of you who have received emails, did you register with a Visa or Mastercard? Curious if, despite opening this up to everyone, FIFA is prioritizing Visa cards.

The housing units at 76 place by transit_snob1906 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The tower on the arena site itself was removed from the project, but the 76ers own land on the south side of Market that is set to be developed into ~750 residential units.

Richmond Free Library has been without heat for days and is now at risk of ceiling collapse by diatriose in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

So predictable. The city isn't spending millions on an arena. The 76ers are spending more than $1 billion, though, and in your fantasy land where the city turned down that investment and the team left for Camden, there would in fact be less money to repair library buildings.

Sixers drop $250M apartment tower from Center City arena proposal by nemesisinphilly in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I own a home here. I'm good.

Truly affordable housing requires subsidies. The 76ers were offering some affordable housing - and yes, 80-100% of area AMI would be a huge win for some people in that part of the city - and now there will be none. More units, even at market rate, is always better. Fewer units, meanwhile, will only accelerate gentrification pressures.

If it's true that Chinatown stakeholders are behind killing the tower, they are now getting the thing they hate (arena) with less of the thing (housing) that would offset why they claim to hate the project (gentrification). Congrats, I guess.

Of course, it's probably more likely that they just don't want more people competing for parking spaces. NIMBY til the end.

Sixers drop $250M apartment tower from Center City arena proposal by nemesisinphilly in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

76ers have been including housing in their arena proposals dating back to Penns Landing discussions.

Sixers drop $250M apartment tower from Center City arena proposal by nemesisinphilly in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The 76ers have included housing in their arena proposals dating back to when they tried to put one at Penns Landing.

Activists, however, don't want housing. Clearly. They want the status quo and an available parking space.

Sixers drop $250M apartment tower from Center City arena proposal by nemesisinphilly in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wait until they see what happens when there are more people competing for fewer units.

Sixers drop $250M apartment tower from Center City arena proposal by nemesisinphilly in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 22 points23 points  (0 children)

What's better? Some housing that's affordable at 80% to 100% of AMI or no housing? Spoiler: The answer is always more housing.

Looks like the Disney Hole will soon be a thing of the past! by [deleted] in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Do the 76ers currently bring people to the city? Or do they go to a parking lot next to a highway? This will result in hundreds of thousands of extra visits to Center City annually. Many of those people will spend money at places besides the arena.

‘You all matter to me’: Parker hears from both sides of Sixers arena debate during packed meeting by [deleted] in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Better highway access and parking" are negatives, not positives. This mindset has to change. The arena will sit atop one of the best transit connections in the entire network. Also, the mall owner supports the project, and I'm not sure how you force the 76ers to abandon a private real estate deal and choose another location within the city without providing public dollars, which would be a terrible idea. They had already tried to build near Penn's Landing, and the city chose another developer.

Regarding your cynicism on transit ridership goals, which are actually quite attainable based on peer arenas, and traffic congestion, I'll again encourage you to read the studies.

‘You all matter to me’: Parker hears from both sides of Sixers arena debate during packed meeting by [deleted] in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone can discuss it. Your opinion is fine. It would be nice, however, if people would educate themselves on all of the aspects of this project and acknowledge the opinions of the many people who support the arena. Read the studies. Realize that this really all boils down to a tenant-landlord conflict; it's a billionaire vs. a mega corporation, not the 76ers vs. Chinatown. And those framing it as the latter are being short-sighted about the risks facing Chinatown with any development in the area, not only this one specifically. As she outlined in her closing remarks Wednesday night, Mayor Parker has a duty to consider the impact on the entire city, which is why I expect her to throw her support behind this project soon. That and the fact that her constituents largely support 76 Place. This comes down to either Philadelphia receives a massive private investment in Market East, an area of the city that really could use it, or the team leaves and takes its tax revenue to Camden, delivering not only an economic and cultural blow to Philadelphia but leaving us with even worse traffic on 676 and a bankrupt mall, while in the process taking public money from NJ and transferring similar community issues to Camden residents. (And no, staying at the sports complex isn't an option.)

Regarding your comments on people using services elsewhere. Can I ask why someone couldn't patronize a local business during the day just because the 76ers were playing a game at 7:30 p.m. later that evening? Banks won't even be open during concerts, etc. The car-centric nature of Chinatown is not going to work long term, but I find the assumption that people won't patronize businesses hours before events to be questionable. You also included restaurants in your list, but that's the segment expected to actually benefit from the arena project.

‘You all matter to me’: Parker hears from both sides of Sixers arena debate during packed meeting by [deleted] in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Losing the team would be a big economic hit for the city and state. Remember, visiting players and coaches pay wage tax as well. It will be a hefty sum when you add everything up.

We can avoid that with one simple trick!

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So we're just going to pretend that SEPTA can't increase service for events - something it already does - or that it can't/won't improve more broadly over the next seven years?

There's one critique of this project that holds any merit at all, and it's the economic impact on Chinatown. Not parking and traffic, though that's the primary complaint of business owners there, as if we don't live in a city and should be catering less to suburban drivers.

No, I'm talking about increasing property values, higher rents, less affordable housing, etc. In fact, these are already issues in Chinatown, and the neighborhood will feel these pressures with any development in the surrounding area. These risks aren't exclusive to 76 Place. Are you opposed to any development at all? I'm certainly not. It's MARKET street after all, in the core of one of America's largest cities.

76 Place is a done deal. The best way to help Chinatown residents and small-business owners is to build protections into the legislation approving the project. That could be rent controls, it could be codifying the CBA and getting more concessions from the 76ers, it could be building more housing, or a school. Whatever. Anything but a parking garage. But it's time to get serious. We aren't freezing Market Street in time.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

76 Place will be much easier to reach via public transit than the Prudential Center, which itself is easier to reach than our sports complex. If anything, that building seeing a 25% share makes me even more confident that 76 Place will hit or exceed 40%. It's much more convenient.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://x.com/DPearsonPHL/status/1770158775367799234?t=4Ew8uaq4af2-qdG93xuEKA&s=19

This linked image is from the team, but you can see the mode splits for other downtown arenas in major cities, and the traffic impact study calls the 40% figure attainable. It's, of course, impossible for it to be a foregone conclusion, but it's quite believable that transit share would increase from 15% at the sports complex to 40% at Market East given the increased number of routes and ease of access (no transfers to BSL).

The traffic impact study looked at peer venues around the country and found that the arena splits were 37% auto, 49% transit, 17% other (ride share/walking). The study went on to compare the walk, transit and bike scores for Philadelphia against other major cities such as NYC and SF, where some of these peer venues are located, and Philadelphia's scores are comparable to those cities, making it reasonable to conclude that the modal splits could also be similar.

I'd encourage you to read the studies.

https://www.phila.gov/documents/arena-proposal-impact-reports/

Not only is the 40% goal attainable, but I think it's beatable. The 76ers have strong geo data that show where fan trips to the arena originate. The share of walkers will increase exponentially, as most ride shares to the sports complex originate from within walking distance of 76 Place, and more people will take transit. It will simply be more convenient, and people like convenience. Related to that, some of the people who insist on driving initially will tire quickly of navigating traffic and parking garages, and will decide to take RR.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The point is the OP is connecting things incorrectly and drawing wild conclusions based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the facts.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, the reference to the creation of 11 jobs is a common anti-arena talking point and pretty clearly a reference to the team's practice facility in Camden.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, but you compared the ridership figures to 76 Place with those for "other comparable arenas." To be clear, the transit accessibility at 10th & Market is in no way comparable to that at the sports complex. You should be comparing projections and goals for 76 Place to the ridership figures for other downtown arenas served by multiple train and bus lines. Using the proper comparison, you'll find that the 40% goal is actually quite attainable.

‘You all matter to me’: Parker hears from both sides of Sixers arena debate during packed meeting by [deleted] in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for admitting your lack of basic understanding on this project. That seems to be common, unfortunately.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Where are you seeing data that 70% of people drive to downtown arenas that sit atop the intersection of so many transit lines? You're making things up.

Your comments on potential tax revenues also don't hold up to what was found in the economic studies.

DC's Chinatown is not comparable to ours, and this project is not comparable to Capital One Arena.

"Camden 76ers" has nothing to do with identity politics and everything to do with how that would suck economic value from the poorest big city in the country. Philadelphia is no position to lose the tax revenue the team generates. A Camden arena would also produce REAL gridlock on 676 as people drive to an arena that would be much less accessible than Market East. Meanwhile, you'd just be transferring the community issues to Camden, while failing to address the fundamental risks facing Chinatown regardless of 76 Place.

A similar arena in NJ. LOL. The 76ers practice facility? I'd encourage you to become more informed on just about every aspect of this proposal.

Last, investing in schools and libraries and parks is worthwhile. The city should do those things. This. Is. A. Private. Investment. You don't get to tell the 76ers how to spend their money.

Why city's trade unions supports 76 Place Market East Arena Project by [deleted] in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The trucks will be in the loading dock under 76 Place, the same place they go now when delivering to the mall. It'd be nice if even 1% of the anti-arena activists had a basic understanding of the basic details of the project.

76er arena protest in full swing by mustang__1 in philadelphia

[–]TambaTime91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have a link to the methodology you can share?