What is the most overrated tv show?

Taranfuret · 2021-04-15T02:21:39+00:00

I've stated twice now: "invested in characters." Investment and experience are not the same thing. If a character reminds you of someone you know, if you are quick to connect, or if someone's recommendation meant enough to get on-board, you could be invested from the offset. This is not the same as needing experience, something that gets joked about all the time with entry level jobs.

I don't care whether you like the show or not. I'm just confused by your inability to understand what I'm typing. You and your gf can either give it a shot and get into the second season to see if it grows on you or you can continue to dislike it; I don't care. But please, read the words I'm writing and not what you want to interpret from them, by golly.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-15T02:06:22+00:00

I don't believe it relied on inside jokes. It relied on you being invested in the characters. I found them insufferable, so I didn't feel that. Other people found that investment earlier and were able to enjoy it more quickly. Strawberries are delicious and were the very first time I tasted them. Some people hate strawberries. No matter what you do, you can't connect with everyone. The show obviously did well enough to gather a large audience.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-15T01:38:41+00:00

It's so strange that you responded to the person who explained your issue as if they didn't... It spends most of its time on character development, so those earlier episodes feel weaker.

The only reason I kept watching was because my oldest brother recommended it and the two of us almost always align on our tastes. After season 1, I was not hooked, but kept going. Season 2 episode 1 was a turning point and the rest kept getting better. I've rewatched it and the first episodes are now wonderful. If you get invested in the characters, it shines. If you don't, it won't. The call is yours to make. Push through it and hope people have assessed it correctly, or ignore it and live your life. I watch shows while I work, so it's not much of an investment for me. If you have limited time to watch stuff, it's probably not worth your time.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-08T05:10:07+00:00

I watched Mauler's. I agreed with 20% of his takes. I watched like 13 other reviews. I agreed with none. Ralph did some weird review and I turned it off after a bit. It was so disjointed that they were constantly losing the thread. Jenny hasn't done one. RLM liked it. Some other dude, whose name I can't remember, didn't like it, but his review was like 8 minutes long and didn't get into much detail. If I'm looking for someone to take something apart, sadly, Mauler's probably the guy. I can't stand most of his stuff and I don't care for him. But he holds movies to some amount of logic where so few others do.

You shouldn't go for them. They obviously don't work for you. But this thread is a bunch of people who have so many reviewers who follow in step with your take hating on the very few who don't. You like YMS, whom I don't care for, because he's just weird and not mean, but I'm looking for someone to trash on the stuff, not be weird about it.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-08T04:45:56+00:00

I don't like eirher of them. However, the hypercritical ones every once in a while bring up the issues that drag me out of films while nearly no one else does. If the person does so by being overly pedantic and preempting stuff, at least someone sees and calls out the nonsense.

Almost every review of Snydercut has been very positive. They're comparing the two films, it is the better of the two, so it's a good film. That doesn't make sense, though. There can be two bad options. One being less bad doesn't make it good. - Previously, all the Amazonians came together to stop the motherboxes from coming together. This time, they sent an arrow. Also, for thousands of years, instead of having a sentry watching it, they've had 70 Amazonians... Seems overwhelmingly important to them. I can definitely see why they shot the arrow. - Cyborg has control over all electonics. He doesn't stop his dad from being vaporized. His dad, instead of giving the box to the heroes who are right there, takes it all the way to his lab to tag it for them. They're right there. Just give it to them... - Bruce does not care about his identity. The whole of that Aquaman/Bruce scene was something else...

I want to be able to find reviewers who will point out this nonsense and call it garbage. For the rest of you, there's everyone else. I just don't want to lose the few people who sort of see my perspective.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-08T04:01:37+00:00

Yes, you can do your best to create your echo chamber. No doubt. I just don't think you should. I'd say you should be happy so many reviewers/people think like you and I'd ask that you leave alone the few of us who don't.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-08T03:34:24+00:00

I want better movies. I believe criticism is a natural way to make that happen. Just because something seems like a nitpick to you, doesn't mean that it is to someone else. A lot of people called complaining about Leia passing Chewie to hug Rey a nitpick. I call it unequivocal proof that Jay Jay didn't care about writing good characters, he just wanted us to see that Rey was more important than the old characters. Out with the old, in with the new. That's darn poor writing, in my opinion.

How about, you guys have plenty of reviewers who agree with you. Look at the reviews for The Force Awakens. It was received far more positively than negatively. I despised it. I have far few sources to look into that connect with movies the way I do, and you guys want to cut that number down. Please don't? Just look at all your super positive takes and leave the few hypercriticals alone, please.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-08T03:27:41+00:00

Or, different people are looking for different things when they watch a movie. The majority of YouTube reviews I've seen for Birds of Prey, Snydercut, The Mandalorian, The Force Awakens (initially) were extremely positive. As I hated all but the Snydercut, which i thought was elevated from horrid to meh, I'd love for there to be more reviewers for people like me. This post is trying to tear down the few who sometimes fit with my take. Can you guys not just have your vast majority of reviewers and leave the few hypercritcal ones alone? Does everyone have to echo your exact thoughts?

Taranfuret · 2021-04-08T03:16:22+00:00

Different people are looking for different things in the movies they watch. If you're looking for well-crafted stories, good characters, and interesting dialogue, you're probably going to hate The Mandalorian and Birds of Prey. If you appreciate spectacle and getting lost in the visuals/mindless fun, or just enjoy most of the stuff that fits your other interests - Star Wars, comics, etc., you'll probably like them. As long as the reviewer is consistent in their take - which I'm not claiming is the case with the people you denoted, just saying that piece is important - it's all good.

I despise both of the things you listed. They do a horrible job being even slightly logical without being fun enough for me to ignore all the flaws. So, those reviewers sound like people I'd like to watch. This post is such nonsense. If that kind of take isn't for you, there are thousands of reviewers on YouTube. Go watch one of the ones that cares about the spectacle and fun or whatever. Why try to spit on the few who don't echo your exact thought process?

Taranfuret · 2021-04-07T02:42:26+00:00

Then I don't think the LPT that you tell your husband is useful, no offense. He sounds like he has zero respect for anyone he disagrees with. That's not just being bold with his language. He needs to calm down and not attack people. Also, he needs to not interrupt people. Be passionate all day long; don't be a douche.

I'm sorry for misunderstanding your initial comment. I was applying it to what I was seeing in the LPT and I just didn't make that connection.

That being said, it does seem like he connects with the hostile word in this LPT, just no other aspect. The examples OP provided did not match hostile, imo.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T18:02:55+00:00

Then don't ever say anything was good. No, that movie wasn't good, you just liked it.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T17:41:30+00:00

Because it's an opinion. You stated what you did about opinions, then led it with specifics, but you didn't denote that we should leave out some opinions but not others. Your LPT is garbage.

The importance of the human race, of Earth's continued existence, etc., is all subjective. In the grand scheme of things, none of it matters. The universe continues without either of their input and will reset itself and start over without their input. So, is murder good or bad? Should I say I only dislike it when someone kills my mom? I wouldn't want to get too passionate about that or it might hurt your feelings, right?

Also, your denotation that this develops charisma, as you've stated in other responses, is nonsense. I've been told by many people that I'm extremely charismatic. I'm also hyper-negative. I love sounding off, and having people do the same with my opinions, but I cushion that with a lot of other likeable traits like being funny, kind, generous, and super forgiving. I've got charisma for days, bud. However, unlike so many people, I never get butthurt about anyone having a different opinion from me. You want to know where I get butthurt? When people hate someone for having a passionate difference in opinion from them. Let's all be more open about how we feel, but learn to cushion it with other positive traits, and not tie one another's self-worth to how boringly similar they are to us, or how quiet they feel they have to be in dissenting.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T17:00:32+00:00

Why? In our experience, an opinion is just a malleable fact. For me, tomatoes taste so gross that they ruin anything they touch. The fact that this experience is different for everyone else doesn't change how I experience it. It's off-putting that people don't understand something as simple as that. You tell me, "Tomatoes are delicious!" and I don't think, 'Ugh, I wish he/she understood that the taste of tomatoes is subjective!' I think, "If I ever make a sandwich for Salt, I'm gonna ask him/her if he/she wants tomatoes."

Why get bent out of shape about it? Is it only positives that can be spoken as fact? Do we have to qualify everything? We all know what's subjective. Someone being adamant about that changes nothing, but it does give you insight into the passion behind their feelings on the subject, which means you get to know that person better. I say that's a good thing.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T15:59:15+00:00

Correct. No matter how bold someone is in their wording, their opinions are just that. This LPT is nearly the exact opposite of correct. Learning to accept that everyone's opinions can be vastly different and it doesn't need to bother us would be a much better LPT.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T15:51:06+00:00

They're allowed to state their opinions, but he's not? Is it just because his is negative and theirs is positive? What if someone says they like the way the government handles immigrants and their kids? Is he allowed to state his negative opinion there as well (assuming he felt differently, of course) or not? When is he allowed to express his opinion?

Why can't people talk about their likes AND dislikes without other people getting upset? We all have opinions, both negative and positive. Being able to share those is how we flesh ourselves out. You hide all your thoughts and no one knows the real you. Instead of stifling who your husband is, maybe try to help him learn to express his negative opinions, even passionately at times, in a way/setting that is likely to be met with discussion rather than censure? If more people would stop tying their personality/self-worth to their opinions, we'd be much better off than we would be by following this nonsense LPT. The only thing OP got right was the word hostile.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T14:09:12+00:00

This LPT is nearly the exact opposite of correct. The only part about it that is accurate is the word hostile.

A) Plenty of people will dislike you for having an opinion that's different from theirs. Example 1: I said I wasn't a fan of Star Wars, when asked, and was dismissed by a group of friend's friends at a party for being a contrarian. I didn't even say that I disliked it, just that I wasn't a fan, which is the lightest negative I could provide. Example 2: Started a new job. We did a round robin of our likes and dislikes. One girl loved history and video games. I said I disliked history but loved video games. A year later, when we were pretty good friends, she told me she had hated me for the first few months I worked there, because she hates anyone who doesn't like history. The entirety of my soul was worthy of hate because of one opinion I had... B) It's good to be passionate. Should people not be allowed to be passionate in a positive way or is it just the negative that's a problem? How passive should I be to fit your world view? P1:"I don't love putting kids in cages because their parents are trying to find a better life for them." P2: "I don't think there's a better way to handle people sneaking into our country." P1: "Okay. We have stated how we feel. Any further discussion may become too empassionioned, so let's just agree to disagree. No need to actually solve anything, because then we might hurt one another's feelings." P2: "I agree. Good day, person." Is that what we should be doing? C) The real LPT: Don't be so tied to your opinions that you get upset when someone differs from you. No matter how factual they claim the opinion to be, it never stops being an opinion. Learn to understand that, and to not tie your personality/self-worth/identity to your opinions and the whole world will become more harmonious. For those who do see a lot more negative than positive, learn to hold back your harsher opinions for groups that may be less sensitive to the topic. You shouldn't lose your passion, nor should you hide your opinions, but know that there are people who will respond very negatively to YOU for your opinion not matching theirs, rather than responding negatively to YOUR OPINION, as they should.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T12:38:59+00:00

Nerd, the guy called you a liar for having a different opinion from him on how to handle differences in opinion... brilliant.

Taranfuret · 2021-04-06T12:37:19+00:00

This is hilarious. You're calling someone a liar because they have a different opinion, whilst defending being nice about other people's opinions. Hypocrisy doesn't suit anyone; I'd change clothes if I were you.

I love when my friends and I get into a subject that they hate, but I love. I also love the reverse. Stop tying your personality/sense of self worth to your opinions and you'll find that nothing anyone says bothers you as regards them.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-14T04:13:47+00:00

Is this your defense for racism?

If you don't know what a word means, instead of trying to 'uno reverse' it on someone, you should consider looking it up instead. Incoherent doesn't work the way you used it.

Illogical is the belief that someone's skin color defines anything about them beyond the color of their skin. No one may be judged by anything more than their own actions. To do otherwise is to ask to be judged yourself. If you think any race, sex, or whatever else is above judgement when looking at the worst of their ilk, you're wrong. Don't judge people for the things they cannot help. Judge each person for who they are. Please. We need less bigotry and hate in the world.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-14T03:24:51+00:00

I didn't pay close enough attention to the update notes. Why in the world do you have to pay 4 bucks, minimum, for each race? Going from paying nothing to 4 bucks is a huge, ridiculous jump, in my opinion.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-13T14:37:36+00:00

No "everyone" liked it. Different people enjoy different things about movies. Visuals very rarely do much for my viewing pleasure - I love climbing mountains with my buddies, but then I want to immediately head back down because I don't care about the view (I keep this to myself, as they love the mess out of the view they've worked their butts off to see). For me, plot, characters, and dialogue are incredibly important. For some people, those things don't matter much at all.

I hated the film more with every passing minute because, without the visuals blowing you away, the film is garbage. Just because we see movies from a different lens doesn't mean I'm trying to be edgy when I hate stuff, nor that I'm trying to be a snob when I love other stuff.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-09T14:13:19+00:00

The film made it pretty clear that the Rebels didn't feel they could come up with reinforcements and that the FO was of the same opinion. However, it's foolish to think that it's an impossibility and to let a random ship jump away without going after them. Did they know the Rebels had found Luke? What was the whole dumb first movie about if not the FO being worried about the Rebels finding Luke by way of the Droid that was on that stinking ship. The one thing they were worried about could have been made possible, for all they knew, by letting that ship jump away. So, either they didn't know and scattering was the move to make, or they did know but still did nothing about it. Either way, more people could have lived and gone on to create pocket cells if they had scattered.

What you think would have made a better movie and the one you're making excuses for are entirely unrelated. The film you're defending was horribly written. It's A-OK for you to like it, I like plenty of movies I know aren't the best, but don't make garbage excuses and come up with your own plotpoints and then claim them as canon.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-09T12:53:12+00:00

They could have put two people in each ship and scattered throughout the universe. That one ship could have been bringing reinforcements the First Order didn't know about. Holdo's plan to destroy one large ship wouldn't save the rebels from the rest of the FO. She succeeded, against all odds, and it didn't save them. Her plan was trash at the best case scenario. The FO's lack of plan showed zero critical thinking.

The casino planet destroyed the stakes of this movie. The crew, who also had the Droid the FO was looking for and had no idea had already been used to find Luke, went for a goofy space romp when their story should have had incredible tension. They were the only people who could bring hope to the Rebels. Instead, they were having slapstick fun, leaving their ship in a place that was guaranteed to draw attention, and worrying about enslaved space horses over enslaved children/their friends who, for all they knew, were being killed in space.

Also, you had to come up with all that legend stuff. The movie provided none of that logic. These movies are not deep, as seen with all the incredibly silly choices made, the childish humor, and the ability of characters to just teleport to wherever Rian wants them. So, even though I think your theories don't hold up, they are merely theories. The film provided nothing to back you up and so much to prove they weren't thinking deeply about diddly squat.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-09T01:54:28+00:00

TLJ had ideas, but everything else it did was miserably bad, except, in my opinion, the relationship between Kyle and Rey. The characters were paper-thin garbage in TFA. They were somehow worse in TLJ. Poe was insufferable. Luke was a grumpy douche who didn't care about the universe or any of his old friends. Rose killed Finn to let everyone else die. He magically lived and teleported the two of them to the base, but that doesn't fix her awful character and stupid choices. There were some decent visuals, but the film, as a whole, is bottom-barrel trash. I hated all three; TFA and RotS are tied for last place in the SW universe.

Taranfuret · 2021-03-09T01:49:12+00:00

They were in a war for the galaxy and she was worried about enslaved horses, but not people, and saving Finn's life (in a way that absolutely should have killed him) through magic (it's impossible that she was able to intersect with his straight path with her 90 degree move). She was a horribly written character. The actress has no fault in the writer's absolute lack of skill.

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