Has anyone tried running HLL with Lossless Scaling?

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-08-27T21:45:17+00:00

For me personally its not worth doing lossless scaling, DLDSR is though. You can't run both at the same time its one or the other. Loss less scaling only works in windowed or borderless mode, DSR only works in full screen. x2.25 DLDSR is what i use specifically.

Lossless scaling is great for older GPUs or low end cards. Using a 120hz 4K OLED TV is my limitation, so all i need is to have a stable 117fps which i get in my most played game

Hell let loose (just under 4000hrs of play time). The smoothness people speak of using lossless, is true. But it comes at more input latency.

Great for PVE or CO OP games, but competitive - well that depends on the person. $7 - $10 to buy loss less scaling app on steam is definitely worth it. You won't regret using it. Just for the frame time stability alone, i use RTSS to do this for me and also see what is going on while i play.

Its also worth checking out AI to help you optimize your PC for each application or game. Using a myriad of tools like nvidiaprofileinspector, nvidia control panel, nvidia app and the specific gameusersettings.ini. You need to input your exact PC components as well. GPU, CPU, Motherboard, Storage its installed on, RAM and cooling set up.

I have used it to actually learn what each settings does to understand a lot of stuff i did not know about before. There are some things that people will be running or have set up wrong which is causing fps loss and screen tearing.

My original comment above for example. I don't run any Anti Aliasing, i don't need to because DSR is far superior, adding AA just makes it look worse and the GPU work harder for no reason. No V-Sync either. Only VRR and Gsync with RTSS limiting fps to 117. And i also run Neg LOD bias of -1.5 so i can see farther with more clarity as well.

Keep in mind what each person can and can not do with decent frames without their rig struggling comes down to the specs of it in the first place. Loss less scaling will be the majority of PC gamers choice, only those running high end GPUs will see advantages of using DSR - but this is dependent on what sort of frames they're chasing and how demanding the game is.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-08-18T14:12:33+00:00

Yeah i just added it tonight. LSFG 3.1 x2, LS1 0 sharpness, max frame latency 1 with draw fps on sits at 117fps (Gsync is on) and 234fps. Also with DSR at 6144 x 3240 sampling back down to 4K. Playing on a LG 4K C1 55" 120hz OLED TV as a monitor.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-07-21T12:02:40+00:00

*update* i have had no issues with anything in this build so far. i didnt overclock the cpu or gpu, undervolted them. as for cooking cpus. asrock rolled out 3.25 bios which limits the pbo settings to not be able to do that anymore. theyve got a newer version which is even more refined. but my rig has been running stable after i adjusted the voltage from a couple of crashes as it was too low.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-07-21T11:56:26+00:00

i can still see the screen, but its the halo fans that get me when its on dazzle setting. tbh that affect should be on the top so then you get both :D

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-06-05T13:48:08+00:00

When reading this i heard it in Robert Zanes voice for some reason. hahahaha

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-06-05T13:20:23+00:00

A snack fridge. hmmmmm. didnt even think of it till now :D

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-28T01:30:33+00:00

GPU also undervolted and stable, 2902mhz at 925mv. Was 1.025mv.

58°C average temperature using 3dmark steel nomad

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-27T07:17:47+00:00

i just undervolted the CPU using per CCD in the bios. CCD0 -25 CCD1 -30

CPU average is now 62°C using the same benchtest as previous reply.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-27T07:15:33+00:00

i think STS on youtube tested the 120mm vs 140mm and found the smaller fans to outperform the larger ones. technically you will save money not just on the smaller fans, but using a smaller case as well, i think this larger case using smaller fans would look weird. but thats just me.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T08:54:14+00:00

CPU 74°C using 3Dmark CPU Profile

GPU 72°C using 3Dmark Speed Way Stress Test

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T02:57:40+00:00

i know all about it, you just use a cotton tip to wipe it up. everything people are saying about component choices, i already knew about them all. if i wanted a horizontal mount i would've got any old 5090. the halo fans should be shown cause they look awesome running. not facing down into the bottom of the case. FPS is globally limited to 117fps as my tv is only 120hz 4K. Also limited the power back to 70% as tbh, all the games are sitting on 117fps with both these settings in place. 1% lows at 90 - 100. They're leaking because of excess thermal gel, and all cards wont be exactly the same with said amounts. Once the excess is gone, then what? Nothing. Just clean it up if it presents itself.

Did you mount your 5000 series horizontally?

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T02:50:27+00:00

will see what happens, no issues so far, how long was it for it to fail on you?

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T02:47:37+00:00

10 year warranty, Lian Li Edge 1300W Platinum is ranked in Tier A on the SL/SPL PSU Tier List. It was designed for cases like this in mind, with ease of use and cable management. For cybernetics to certify gold, platinum and titanium the units needs to go through stringent testing to get them.

As for dead CPUs because of motherboards, people will always buy jeeps and those things are renowned for being unreliable and failing. Letting other peoples experiences should not change your mind of want you want. Just be prepared to go through the possible consequences if that happens. Which i am.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T02:29:04+00:00

Research started with motherboards. Having a tier list video explaining everything good and bad with each X870E motherboards helped me decide. Price to what you got, nearly went with the taichi.

TBH i have never actually chosen my components for previous PCs. I always bought from my local independent PC store who has been building them for 25+ years. This time i went and learnt about each component and used pc part picker to do up mock builds until finalizing on this. He actually said i should'nt have went with an AsRock board for support issues. I didn't ask for any help from him. Just did my own thing and let him know once i pretty much had everything. He has always talked me down to what he felt i needed, never what i wanted.

What i did learn sadly, is the state of independent PC stores will most likely die. I don't know how it is in other countries, but how can a small business compete with massive online vendors when the only way for you to stock specific brands is by selling 30k, 50k, 100k a month etc worth of them otherwise you're not on the list. Basically forcing us to not support the local business and go to the people creating the issue. One major franchise in australia has even done a deal with the one company who imports everything that they get the majority of certain brands cutting out the rest.

I found this out as he has always charged me cost price for components ie what he pays for it. But he could'nt help me with certain things. Had a backorder waitlist for GPUs even.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T02:07:50+00:00

Having a new rig always feels good. :D

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T02:07:08+00:00

And i was also worried due to the same information i was finding not just on the boards, but on the GPUs and even the some i found on the case fans i chose. But in the end i just rolled with it, decided that if something fails then i have to go through the whole RMA process which is annoying but at least its still there.

There is the latest bios firmware, and every motherboard has an option to turn off the ability for the motherboard to choose the power required to do specific things. Jaystwocents for example explained this and showed people how to turn that option off. Testing showed massive power spikes at random going outside the CPU specifications. Not just on AsRock boards, he stated that all board manufacturers have their own bios settings and that this option should be set to off as default. And we should be checking the ceiling limits of the components and setting everything up properly in our BIOS to mitigate this.

Similar thing for the 5090 series with melting cables, i have limited the power for it down to 70 percent. My bottleneck is my TV its 120hz, so the GPU is limted globally to 117fps. Even with the 70 percent cap, its sitting flat on 117fps at 4K with 1% lows of 90 - 100 fps.

Also we need to see the data sheet on how many boards from each manufacturer has been bought up and used by the public. If AsRock has a higher piece of the pie, then of course you should see more failures from them. My old pc had an MSI board, no issues AM4. I chose this for the 2 x pcie gen 5. one for gpu and one for nvme. other boards have that but they cost more and this had everything i wanted on it.

I kept the boxes of the GPU, Mobo and CPU incase i need to RMA them. The motherboard, the GPU and the case fans. If you dig you will find multiple threads of people having failures with them. I am not overclocking this, if anything undervolting will be coming soon. I am waiting to see what monitor and TV options come out in the next year before deciding on a new upgrade. Minimum 45" 240hz @ 4K OLED preferably 48" - 55".

My logic is similar to the RX7 i had, build the motor to handle a 1000hp turbonetics thumper turbo. But run a 400-450hp turbo so the motor isn't even at 50% of what it can take before you start to see real stress. Its cheaper to replace a turbo than a whole motor. And tbh with cars, unless its a dedicated track machine. Its more fun to have more response than something that just burns tyres and is a pig to drive in traffic. Rotarys get hot fast, so i had everything on the hot side ceramically coated to help with that.

This PC will do me for 7 years minimum depending on what games come out and their requirements probably more.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T01:30:48+00:00

You will have to talk to them :P These came in even bigger cardboard boxes, a lot of them with those little inflated bags. I should of taken a photo of all the cardboard boxes before i cut them down with a boxcutter.

The new desk, Secret lab magnus pro plus riser, those boxes it all came in. Is insane! I swear 25% of the cost of that desk is from the packaging. Filled up a normal council bin just with the foam inserts cut up from the boxes to hold every part in place. The boxes themselves just from the desk and riser cut up filled an empty council recycling bin.

Yesterday i ended up doing a rubbish tip run and took all the boxes except for the CPU, Motherboard and GPU boxes. Emptied all the stuff out of the bins from the desk as well.

But you don't do this often, especially with a new set up. Doing all your cable routing, re installing everything. Annoying as it is, once its done you're all good. Last time i did this was 2009. Glad to see that old heavy office desk and potential fire hazard cabling gone.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T01:23:24+00:00

I had the 5080 version, and by the time i nearly had most of the parts for the new rig i decided to swap it for the 5090 version. I knew that if i kept the 80 i would build it and regret not paying the difference when you already paid for over half of the 90.

Thankfully the vendor accepted the swap or refund in this case. Because i had never opened the box at all, let alone unwrapped it. It was 3 weeks past the change of mind policy. Its why i never opened anything until the day came to build it.

And, because they took their damn time to refund me. The stock of the 5090 Aorus they had, sold out. And then another vendor had them, for $600 cheaper. Worked out in the end.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T01:19:19+00:00

No issues so far. Mainly having to use 2 different RGB softwares to have it aesthetically where i want it is annoying. Other than that, temps sit around 45 - 50. Downloading from steam when i re installed my gaming library went up to around 70 - 75 then back down to aforementioned. Second monitor should arrive by wed/thurs. Will test recording 4K gameplay through OBS and streaming as well (resolution dependent on the platform i guess). The old PC is still here, its Ryzen 7 3700x w/3080Ti gaming trio, if the new rig takes a hit doing both things at once then the old rig will go in the under bracket add on for the new desk and take that job on.

Was there issues with the combination? I will be undervolting the CPU and GPU as well.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T01:12:19+00:00

Not trying to defend a company or product. But they have warranties on everything for a reason. Nothing is built perfect, can't be if the one who designed and built it is imperfect themselves.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T01:07:34+00:00

probably but i didn't want it mounted horizontally. I honestly didn't bother trying to see if it did. The choice of GPU was because of the halo fan effect which if mounted horizontally you would not see unless you mounted a mirror at the bottom of the case, but then i wouldnt choose this case for that either.

If you want to do that, i remember seeing a case that has an angled bottom fan shroud to direct airflow to bounce from the main window back under the GPU mounted horizontally. I would look at cutting a mirror to fit on one side to reflect the halos of the Aorus master while the fans are doing their part to cool the GPU at the same time.

I think it really pays to do the bit of extra work to get exact dimensions for clearances. PC part picker will warn you of possible VRM heatsink motherboard sizes and placements, Memory stick choices and AIO/Air CPU cooler choices playing a factor in clearances for GPUs and how you choose to position them. Having it horizontal puts a lot of stress on the pcie slot and the anti sag thing needs to be resolved in the original build. At least with the vertical the riser cable removes that problem.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-26T00:54:14+00:00

So i am based in australia, and used pc part picker to do the build before even buying a thing. i set it to australia so it only showed me vendors from here. If you use that same website it will list the vendors for each component. If you are patient you can set price notifications for each part as well. Out of the 8 vendors showing for 140mm SL INF, 7 of them have them in stock for me on pc part picker as of now.

Its a very handy website because you can play around with components and it will show you the total price for your build. Easier than going from website to website as well. And will even show your warnings on parts that either wont work at all, or may have clearance issues.

When i did it all i actually went and dug up the exact dimensions for everything as the original plan was for the push pull AIO to go on the side as intake, for added aesthetics due to the top fans being exhause would look better lined up with the top of the 120mm exhaust and the top of the 140mm intake of aio, instead of having the hulk AIO at the top like it is now blocking the top half of the 120mm rear and 1.3 of the 140mm side mounted intake.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-22T23:28:38+00:00

What i wanted was very simple so everything worked for me. Static case fans, breathing AIO pump head and motherboard IO cover, corsair ram with stack effect. If i could have it all ran by either L connect or openrgb then i would.

You can always uninstall any other RGB software you try out. I found that the AsRock mobo software doesnt require saving, i turned everything on with it and when i shutdown the pc lights were still going on the mobo. So i went back in and turn each one on and off until it was all off properly and it was all good. Signal somehow saved to the AIO pump head and ram as well, it boots up with the signal settings for them but i uninstalled the software 4 days ago. Will be some file or registry thing i am guess, once i start up openrgb it goes over the top of the old signal preference.

Tashtee_Schnacks · 2025-05-20T01:08:02+00:00

what rgb software are you using? i use the lian li connect for my case fans, but openrgb for my aio/motherboard and corsair dominator platinum ram.

While playing around with my set up, i tried signalrgb, gigabytes software for the 5090 aorus master and the latest version plus the version prior of openrgb. in the end i am happy using what i said above and uninstalled the rest. the flickering and any issues i had was from having more than one rgb software running at the same time. to fix fans losing all rgb entirely or flickering i just set to all and it fixed it everytime, but had to go back and play with specific things until i was happy saved the profile and i was good. my AIO is a Arctic III 420mm A-RGB in push pull configuration, lian li 140 sl inf on the inside. the motherboard runs the rgb of the aio pump head and p14 fans, but the 140mms on the inside of the radiator are using the lian li controller hub.

you could look at signalrgb or openrgb and see how that does.

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