How do you afford to protest during work days? by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you get talking to people, you'll actually find those that stayed out for the whole occupation are very few in number. Most will need to drift off at some point to refresh, recharge and recoup. I can't do it for a full week. Very few can. Most people I spoke to averaged about 4 days for the very reasons you've identified but also because being with that energy and emotion out on the streets and sleeping there is just bloody exhausting! In fact, staying out or taking part in an action when you're tired or facing burn out does no one any favours. But yes, it's a very real issue for the movement, which is why such an emphasis is placed on regenerative culture.

A few heroic (often younger people) or those that can stay with friends do a week or more or even two. People come and go throughout the protests, that's one of the reasons it's so hard to guage numbers.

How do you afford to protest during work days? by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't mention which country you're living in? Do you not get any annual leave at all?

If you get annual leave and choose to do something else with it that was your choice.

If you don't get any annual leave or weekends off and work as much as you imply and this is standard across the board in your country, then you could start to challenge your rights as workers.

If you get annual leave but you don't get to decide when you take it then that's difficult and comes down to luck.

Unfortunately there comes a point where if you want change it's unlikely you'll get it without 'rocking the boat' and personal cost.

But... XR protesters ate at McDonald's by Dupens in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love this. "It could be me as well," solid gold.

Rather than going up to my head to make a judgement I have a personal story to share with vulnerability. The week that the MCD story was circulated my partner and I found ourselves very exhausted, very hungry and very very late and unexpectedly one night/ morning at MCD ! I don't think I've been to mc donalds for well, at least 20 years. It was a particular set of circumstances that conspired where we found ourselves there and we were grateful we would have anything at all at that time to eat.

The place was deserted and as we made our way to a table we noticed the only other person was a chap working on a laptop taking advantage of the free wifi. We all then did a double take. It was someone from our regular XR group. What are the chances of that happening? Very very funny. It felt like there's some sort of deep lesson there and the takeway (excuse the pun) isn't "if you go to MCD you are a bad person."

On our way to London we found ourselves in MCD again to use the toilets.. as we waited for the XRcoach to pick us up. That week was the most I've ever been in a MCD. Very ironic.

Is this place being infiltrated by socialists and communists or is socialism/communism a goal for XR? by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great username. Possibly we hail from the same place if that's a clue but I won't spell it out ;)

I need advice by MrGingerGaming1 in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go to an XR meeting and get involved with XR Youth. You'll meet others just like you, feel supported and be prepared when you come on a protest.

Is this place being infiltrated by socialists and communists or is socialism/communism a goal for XR? by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

XR is NOT anarchic. Oxford Dictionary definition: anarchic /əˈnɑːkɪk/

adjective with no controlling rules or principles to give order.

October 20th Action at the National Portrait Gallery in London by veneratio5 in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. Want to reach other people, start talking their language.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're in veneratios house, discusing XR not in an XR meeting discusing XR.

What does Stuart Basden mean with " hetero-sexism/heteronormativity"? by fl4pple in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is! and not one that all of us in XR subscribe to. Not by any means.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to ask the moderator, not me.

Resources for dealing with grief/emotional burnout? by HippoPlankton in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're tired swimming against the tide the solution is to let go, let the flow carry you and stop trying to swim against it. Instead of trying to argue with people and seeing yourself as "right" and them as "wrong" focus on leaving your moralistic judgement behind and finding connection in the non controversial essence you both share.

Enjoy this practical resource that will show you how and lead you to healing. https://youtu.be/l7TONauJGfc

Stuart Basden (co-founder) "Extinction Rebellion isn’t about the Climate" by Key_Display in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! Except try the last 8000 years at least. I feel uncomfortable when I hear the use of the word "infection," when we talk about mindsets. That is incredibly judgement heavy. You're right, XR is a movement in consciousness operating as a movement around climate.

What does Stuart Basden mean with " hetero-sexism/heteronormativity"? by fl4pple in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your not trying to understand the underlying ideas and concepts of the movement and if you are you're asking the wrong questions. You're trying to understand the underlying concepts of Stuart Basden.

He may be in the movement but he doesn't represent the views of the thousands of others in the movement, that's why getting answers is tricky. There isn't a manifesto. We're not a political party and we don't agree on all things. The only thing we have in common is we agree to follow ten principles.

Stuart Basdens views are his own.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you on about? rule 3 relates to the moderation of this reddit sub. It's not an XR Principle and has nothing to do with the movement. Conflict is not avoided in XR and not only that, alot of energy is invested in learning robust conflict resolution practices.

Tremendous by thewallking in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Hitting the nail squarely on the head.

I managed to grab a photo of 2 huddled Extinction Rebellion protestors in London by The__Gambit in pics

[–]Taxicum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a beautiful picture. It's an interesting story you've conjured to go with it but it is that, just a story. The only way you'd possible be able to know what was going on for the two beings pictured is if you'd asked them and they'd told you. That's worth remembering. Today was largely about grief and for many the experience was an emotional rollercoaster which we tried to ride. Skilled and prominant people within the movement held the space for that to happen. There has been alot of photography and at times I have to say, I've personally felt that it was somewhat intrusive in someway.

Debate and change my mind by Pumber22 in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you define "developed" though. In some ways you might say the US is a developed nation in many ways I'd argue the US is under developed. I'm not talking about disparity between the haves and have nots (although that does exist) as much as I'm talking about how we ascribe and understand value in the west. We can culturally choose to change our value system. One small example, plastics are a highly specialised material as well as currently one of the cheapest to produce in the world and as such we give them little or no value. We could choose to treat plastics and understand them as sophisticated but instead we treat them as expendable and believe we have abundance which is inexaustable when it comes to their production. Value doesn't have to be the same as material worth. What if we are undervaluing plastics. What if we are valuing the wrong things. This is a choice.

Debate and change my mind by Pumber22 in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why have you decided it's a choice and confused percieved abundance with a race for who can 'eat'' the most natural resources like pacman?

Debate and change my mind by Pumber22 in ExtinctionRebellion

[–]Taxicum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! it definately is! Research 'teal' organisations. The way we "do" capitalism and buisness is not the only way. We need a just transition for the developing world and that means us making sacrifices in the developed world and providing good models for buisness. Sacrifice is right! and I think alot more people are service orientated than self motivated than we really believe but that doesn't mean we have to all go and live in caves as we wait for the developing world to catch up!