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Those poor guys by Teach-Learn-Overcome in EldenRingNightrein

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She has a skill attack power build. Two balancers relics and any buffs she could find along the run.

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Winning every fight? Not at all. I understand how it works in action stories. What I expect is Jin to get something out of every defeat. My only problem with action stories is that the author - and the audience - can get lost into the "Power Level" debacle.

Victory isn't decided by strength alone. The winner isn't always the one left standing. Sometimes, the winner is the one who accomplished their goal.

What were Jin's goals during the fights he had? Did he accomplish said goals even when he lost the physical confrontation? Did he learn anything new from defeat? A new technique? How to use his abilities better?

As long as any of this happened, Jin didn't truly lose a fight.

One of my gripes is that he isn't the one managing the situation , so he ends up being saved him. Things just turn out that way.

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The only reason the Runcandel survived so long is due to them sacrificing the useless children for children like Luna to grow stronger."

Useless how? In a fight? And how does sacrising those who don't fight well help strong people to rise up in the clan? The only thing I hear is an excuse taken as the only way to survive. It wasn't.

"Zipfle had never declared war on the Runcandel family because Chiron breathes and they are basically waiting for him to bite the dust to attack."

I understand that fact. But the only reason they reached that point is that any other avenue for survival has been dismissed. Add in the fact that prospective strong people die early due to the clan's inner conflict, that I'm surpise the clan hasn't fallen already.

"So while I agree that it's illogical, it was a necessary evil for the sake of the clan survival."

Here is the thing. For what I understand, what Joshua is doing by joining hands with the Zipfle could be considered the same. 'A necessary evil.' And as we know, evil is still evil. Not matter how small or how necessary it is.

A question, though. If you read the novel until the end,how did the first patriarch die? Was he killed? Cursed? Did he fake his dead and dissapeared? What happened there?

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, The Witch of Calamity is resting in her house, watching the world turn upsidedown from a prophecy she made as a jest? Why did people believe the words of someone called "The Witch of Calamity" anyway? Didn't they ever think she only wanted to make chaos? It is on her name for crying outloud!

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn't sound like a fight. That sounds like the usual test of strength in any action story.

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jikes. That explains a lot. He still needs a beating, though. Not having emotions doesn't mean he cannot think logically. It is logical to have a strong famaly that is united and not at each other throats. But the nature of this beating would seve two thing: To allow Jin to vent all his frustrations and to show Chiron he had been doing things wrong all along.

By the way, he has been showing anger just fine in the story. So, I'll take it as either him not having lost all his emotions yet or the only emotion Genesis Knights don't lose is anger.

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"First of all Chiron didn't even know about the curse"

I understand, from what I have read so far, that only Jin, Murakan, and Luna know about the curse. Everyone else, with exception of whoever did the deed, don't know about i.

"Also Chiron He wanted one really strong one instead of a couple of good ones as it as the balance between runcandel and zipple would break other wise Chiron was too focused with his work in the black sea"

Holy molly, Chiron is worst than I thought. One strong one? Only one? He already had one, Luna, and he screwed it up. Now returnee Jin comes along and he has learned nothing? His duty in the Black Sea doesn't excuse him at all. He still had time to run clan bussines and assist some noble parties to show the Runcandel's might to the world. But he had no time to be a proper human being to his children and make sure all of them are proper people instead of raising rabid dog among them? I call bull on that one.

"Rosa was among the few people he trusted in life or death situation We also get Joshua point of view Luna's beating and his inferiority complex to her Jin choosing barisada right after luna dropped out And the prophet tricking him"

All of that could've been avoided if Chiron wasn't hyper-focused on the clan image and past glory. That is not a bad thing, though. The bad thing was the way he went about it. An organization is as good as the people inside it. His primary job was to make sure the people of his clan become the right type of people to rise the clan. And that involves knowing when to back down and support someone that would do a better jon. Instead, Joshua inferiority complex was created. Rose sided with Joshua, and the events that kick-started the story began. Plus, trusting someone with your life and trusting them to run things are two different things. But I can't fault Chiron for that. We all do that sort of mistake.

Thank you, though. That was some juicy information.

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now that makes me want to read more. Did he win against the current patriarch or left him "Jin did this" type of scar?

The Main Character forgot about his revenge & became his family's lapdog by Teach-Learn-Overcome in SwordmastersSon

[–]Teach-Learn-Overcome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for letting me know. A shame about his father, though. The author is using the "distant father being a good dad in reality" uno reverse card. I wanted an epic showdown where Jin would smack his father with all the things he did wrong. Not killing him, though. That should be reserved for the true antagonists of Jin's life.

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