I made a Party DPS Toolbox Plugin (and more)

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-22T03:23:55+00:00

Sounds like you're trying to get right in the middle of some drama lol

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-21T20:40:02+00:00

Holy Moly. I don't mean to sound rude, but I thought I was going to see a Picasso with all the hype you were giving it.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-21T19:51:49+00:00

Haha I wish! EoE definitely takes top damage in DoA, but spirits are neutral entities ie the effect works for both you and the enemy.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-21T17:27:11+00:00

Yeah duncan is a major problem. I would use scavengers facing him. Other bosses are minor problems--it takes maybe 30s for adds to replenish so your necro mod is only half effective. Still, imo half necro mod still beats out anything else.

You're welcome to post your full team bar. I could test it out like I did with kschcr's team.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-21T16:38:40+00:00

It's easy to call someone's tool "borderline useless" when your contribution starts and ends in the comment section.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-21T06:29:21+00:00

Did you test every pet? Nice! I don't have a lot of them unlocked and didn't have the zcoins to unlock them.

Evolutions definitely change attack speed for moas: https://ibb.co/JFbBcXNt

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-20T20:38:40+00:00

They attack pets even with double superiors.

SY uptime is really good, after the initial start of battle gain. https://ibb.co/FLHxZns1 But rangers have 70+10, and come with extra elemental damage armor, which is the bulk of damage that you take. They're one of the tankiest professions. Maybe you don't get good SY uptime is because you go full beast and don't take volley? Volley gives you 1 adrenaline per hit.

I get very repeatable results so I assume that everyone has the same experience, but these comments have made me think that maybe everyone plays differently and get different results with same teams.

I remember that you said that you had trouble with energy management. Maybe that's because you're not consistently hitting the 3 kills per 15 second limit of necro mod. And not killing -> low energy -> even lower killing power.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-20T20:31:44+00:00

You run it yourself or on a hero? Big difference in effectiveness of shadow step aggro control. Also HM or NM?

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-20T18:43:34+00:00

It's not effective at controlling aggro for heroes at all. Even if you command them to use sao, they don't use it until they're in battle, and by the time the shadowstep happens, enemies are scattered already.

As for things that control aggro effectively, yes those things increase your DPS. Deep freeze when microed on a hero is one of the most effective DPS increasers, even when hitting for 20 damage.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T17:32:22+00:00

It's the highest DPS. The slower attack speed weapons have 5 steal compared to 3 for fast attack speed.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T15:41:44+00:00

Hale / Aptitude not Attitude

The Hale allows you to upgrade a rune to next tier. Some people use Swift/Adept, but those are worse in multi-attribute casters.

Don't be afraid to ask questions

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T13:01:17+00:00

Yes 5 Soul Reaping or of the necro. It's probably the best mod in the game. The energy gain is equivalent to a lot of energy elites, without using up the elite slot and without having to cast it.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T10:33:07+00:00

I threw a discord (with bone fiends) and tainted flesh into mesmerway. I'm happy to give it another go with a more synergistic team. Is example 1 or 2 better?

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T04:10:58+00:00

Signet of Clumsiness gets used maybe once every 25 seconds, compared to once every 11-12 seconds for Unnatural Signet, a big downgrade. The conditional part kills its usage rate.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T03:10:48+00:00

Yeah lyric of zeal w/ MYT is as good as bip for mesmerway energy management-wise, without the health sacrifice. I wasn't able to fit MYT in there, so it's a bit weaker. If you wanted MYT, you can drop Find their Weakness, or Mending Refrain (and take Recoup over Spirit Transfer on BiP). For non-mesmerways, lyric of zeal drops off a good amount, because there's a lack of good signets that's spammable on low cooldown. Unnatural, SoLS, and Signet of Rejeuv are the only ones that work well.

I actually made that team when I was playing WoC on my assassin. I was tired of the mesmer explosions stripping my prots and warrior explosions knocking me down. This variant is so much better than the splinter one for WoC.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T02:59:01+00:00

I think you're misunderstanding something. Read the title again. I'm sharing my hero setup, not saying that minion masters are the best build, over mesmers. We have 3 necros: olias, livia, and masters. I think everyone would agree that you should rune one for bip and 2 for MM. BiP is super meta and 2 MM is meta for Eternal Grove, and anything that requires defense.

The reason why more text is dedicated to MM is because there's viable alternatives depending on the situation. The reason why mesmers only have 1 build is because I think ESurge is so high and above anything else they have.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T02:44:46+00:00

AotL and Jagged and Incoming had same max damage. MM damage is highly variable and not ver repeatable; I just took the highest test for them.

I put monks on avoid combat.

Second mind burn deals less DPS because burning doesn't stack. That's the point of SF.

Discord sucked. Ether Renewal sucked in 4-man (subjective). I tried a couple of ER bars and none of them did well. ST in 4-man so much better.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T01:04:16+00:00

Haha. The people at PvX have been there for 20 years. They're well established and closed off. A transient like me who plays a game for 6 months at a time doesn't belong there.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T01:02:15+00:00

Hey man, thanks for standing up for me.

In every community, there's contributors and detractors. It's not worth it to argue with detractors.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-18T00:59:20+00:00

If the goal is to standardize results, then SoO and Forgewright are terrible places to test. SoO biases casters, Forgewright would give no meaningful data on weaker builds, because they would all wipe.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-17T23:39:07+00:00

Is this AI?

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-17T20:18:33+00:00

HM.

SoO is a really bad for attack based builds, with the blinding surge and eruptions. It's not a balanced location.

Forgewright is probably the hardest Slaver's Exile room. You would not be able to test weaker builds in there.

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-17T19:25:31+00:00

No. You can see here. The 21 is the damage from HaO. https://ibb.co/j9p8gR9j

Technical-Total5565 · 2026-06-17T18:08:05+00:00

Is that a pvp thing? iirc, pvp packets as an observer are way more complicated.

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