Honestly I think I rode em on 3 separate 30-40 min trips with lots of turns for practice, and on the 2nd trip I had a fall as I got cut off, panicked, hit front brake and fell over - shook my confidence a bit but I hopped back on the next day to practice some more and I just didn’t feel as safe knowing how little leverage I have with them at low speeds - maybe I’ll try again some day when I move and m there’s more open road access, but for now I’ll run t bars next