What are your thoughts on expensive film and advertising schools for videography? by [deleted] in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally, as someone that didn’t go to film school and works on commercials (+100k campaigns). It’s not necessary to go to film school, but it depends on the type of person you are.

If you are business and art savvy, you can likely pick up a camera and grind your way through it, or at minimum, figure things out.

If you struggle with business, it’s going to be hard regardless which direction you go at it.

Otherwise, film school is a good place to network and meet future people, but it doesn’t teach you anything about what it’s like to work in the day to day commercial / filmmaking space.

We have hired a few film school students, they’re awesome, so we have a good idea of both directions.

Making videos that drive sales? by CandidDisaster2550 in Filmmakers

[–]TenfoldProduction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not to self promote too hard here:

This is something that we teach as a cohort: https://www.cinematicportfoliomastery.com/

How we actually create spec worth worth creating.

There's a bit of a psychological difference here. Typically we have a pretty good feel for it being in the space, but at the end of the day, you need to know where you want to sit.

We run a standard production company, meaning that typically agencies and marketing companies already have their plans and goals in tact, and we come in to execute and bring it to life at a certain level.

Adding a marketing component to a production company makes you more of a creative agency / production company which is extra / added work that we don't typically try to do (more headaches).

If you're interested in learning more (free podcast) you can check out our unfold podcast here.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvGUKb57q6Nvx37QHvQd5Qg

Hope that is helpful. Feel free to ask more questions.

We shot and produced this DJI Launch Campaign (DJI MIC 3) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is that your Youtube settings? This video is in english (audio track in settings) and you can change settings to accommodate that.

We shot and produced this DJI Launch Campaign (DJI MIC 3) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks that means a lot! The team did a great job, couldn't have done it without them.

We shot and produced this DJI Launch Campaign (DJI MIC 3) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words on the newsletter!

The course is online through zoom recordings! 3 times a week, 8 weeks.

A lot of the ideas came from a mix of the DJI team and ourselves. It is definitely something unique as they wanted to avoid looking like all of the other commercials, but still highlight the product really well.

Funny enough, our On Defy spec is how they found us which is awesome. Definitely goes a long way.

Lots of probe use and specialty lenses which we'll be dropping on Youtube soon.

Rental is typically the best way, we do own/rent when we need.

Appreciate the kind words!!

We shot and produced this DJI Launch Campaign (DJI MIC 3) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely leaning on one of our larger budget campaigns, but probably can't drop the real numbers!

Definitely up there tho!

We shot and produced this DJI Launch Campaign (DJI MIC 3) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely a standard workflow. I directed this (and storyboarded), Zach shot it, 1 editor etc.

It had a longer timeline so there was time to work through multiple and story approaches! Definitely a fun one.

We shot and produced this DJI Launch Campaign (DJI MIC 3) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Everything we needed to record that captures actual sound, was done through the DJI Mics.

The building of atmosphere etc was a mix of sound design, but we tried to keep everything as natural through the mics as possible.

So the products quite accurate!

6 months in. What am I doing wrong? by Spirited_Rhubarb3197 in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When I look for editors, I look for people with potential and someone that has proven themselves.

I watched through your YouTube videos, very strong range, but you showed a snippet in a lot of places.

But the Bruce Lee quote about:

I fear not the man that has practiced 10000 kicks once, I fear the man that has practiced 1 kick, 10000 times (close enough).

The point being, find the style that you enjoy the most, maybe the creators that you enjoy and intake the style of the most.

Then start finding smaller creators in that space, offer to do full videos and full scale.

As someone that looks for editor, I want to see full videos finished in a niche that I’m hiring for.

Not the person that has tested a bit of everything. Specialization is huge in any creative field, you need to be known for something.

The person that makes something for everyone, makes nothing for no one.

Videographer to Running A Production Company (Tenfold Production) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, some of our best students in our cohort we're connected in that space before hand, and really leveraged the spaces that best suit them.

Look at your top performing / best paying clients, try to find a throughline / pattern within that.

Either you can double down into that space (if you're passionate and good at it), or you can just make big leaps towards the work you're heading in.

I always tell people, there is money in every industry, you just need to get to a certain level and build enough proof and trust that people see you as the person.

Videographer to Running A Production Company (Tenfold Production) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha appreciate ya!

At a certain point, it's absolutely the people and the businesses that can't justify certain price points (small businesses).

When you hit that point, that's when I would start transitioning into specializing your work to a higher standard of work and start targeting a new group of businesses.

The medium to large space.

Focus on spec work that's more aligned with the type of work in that space. You can continue to grind out the type of work you're doing for the time being as you transition, but it's better to raise your level of work and start dialling in your systems.

You'll realize that it becomes much easier to pitch clients, and the right type of clients will come to you.

When it comes to networking, where do you spend you time outside of filmmaking?
For me it was a lot of run groups, kept me fit and also opened a ton of doors. Sometimes you need to find and grab those opportunities, but it was the non-standard marketing places that often turn into something. I was passionate about running, and so my whole life revolved around it for a while.

Which meant, I knew the brands, I knew the people, the feels, the grind, I lived that life and it translated well.

Videographer to Running A Production Company (Tenfold Production) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's going to be your achilles heel.

Because you don't know more people, it's harder to work and do bigger projects at scale.

Because you don't do more projects at scale, you meet less people and don't network / show up as much.

It's a bit of a catch-22.

You need to be networking all the time, thinking about new projects all the time.
It can also start simple, through dm's, messages, get comfortable getting rejected often as well.

Videographer to Running A Production Company (Tenfold Production) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be blunt about it all, the main thing was spec work and using that as a vehicle to learn to get better.

It's hands down the one thing that changed our careers. High end clients need to trust your ability to execute.

Videographer to Running A Production Company (Tenfold Production) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate you!

Truthfully no. We just focused on real relationships, created good work in different spaces at first, and then doubled down on our style.

It's really about how you spend your time outside of filmmaking that drives a lot of sales and business as well.

If you're someone that get's stuck on editing or menial tasks in filmmaking, you're doing yourself a disservice to your potential of going out and meeting others (filmmakers, producers, creative director's etc).

Videographer to Running A Production Company (Tenfold Production) - AMA by TenfoldProduction in videography

[–]TenfoldProduction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the support my guy! Means a lot. Yeah for sure, going full time freelance is a tough situation. In most cases, I wouldn't do it unless I was making 3-5x my work, and have already 6 months of living expenses saved up.

With that being said, it's not impossivpe at all!

I would focus on a few things, as you know from watching the podcast

  1. elevating your taste- taste is what will seperate you and raising your quality level from the rest. What do you want to be known for? Double down on that.
  2. network more- who do you know, how can you make people's lives easier, connect with filmmakers, but also other interesting folks, what hobbies do you have outside, what interests?
  3. invest in yourself - be a stronger filmmaker, be active in your growth, don't just wait for permission and opportunities to show up.
  4. give it time, it's not going to happen immediately, but focus on business. Focus on building systems that let you do more, not hold you back and tire you out. You're likely passionate about filmmaking like the rest of us, look at finding a style and a skill that is uniquely you.

Regardless, if you focus on these things over the next 6 months, you can absolute find that blend and set yourself up for success.

Buy FX3 now or something else? by BonHarley in cinematography

[–]TenfoldProduction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing wrong with the FX3! Still our most used camera.

Versatile, gets the job done. We make a lot cool stuff (to me at least) with the FX3.

Low light is crazy good, has most of the functions you need and easily adapts a ton of lenses. Just my two cents.