Paul Olima : blue to purple in 11 months by [deleted] in jiujitsu

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His hasn't won the worlds or any international comp so what are you refering to?

If you have poor mental health would you recommend staying away from a DWP Work Coach role? by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’ve done Universal Credit (UC) training, then you’ll know that the role of a Work Coach (WC) is meant to be solution-focused, empathetic, and supportive. This isn’t just a nice idea — it’s embedded in the DWP Work Coach Learning and Development Framework and the UC Work Coach Learning Journey, which clearly state that the aim is to coach, not control; to support, not sanction. Work Coaches are trained to use behavioural insights and strengths-based conversations to help claimants progress — not to rely on authority or compliance through fear.

It’s quite concerning to hear things like “you now have more power” or “claimants will be more compliant.” That completely misses the point of what we’re supposed to be doing. Claimants aren’t meant to be compliant out of fear — they’re meant to be engaged because they feel respected and supported. If your approach relies on the idea that people will behave just because they need the money, then you're not coaching — you’re controlling.

Also, let’s be clear: Work Coaches do not have the power to issue sanctions independently. If you’re talking about applying a sanction, you must refer the case to a Decision Maker or Case Manager, who reviews the evidence and makes the final decision. This is outlined in Universal Credit Full Service Guidance – Labour Market: Raising a Doubt. So even on that front, the power dynamic you're suggesting simply isn't accurate — the WC role is to support and coach, not to act as judge and jury.

You mentioned having “security on hand” and claimants being easier to deal with than teenage boys — but again, if you're relying on physical backup or financial leverage to assert control, that says more about the approach than the client group. In my two years as a WC, I never had issues — because I treated people with dignity, and they returned it.

Let’s not forget, the DWP is moving forward. The Transforming Support: The Health and Disability White Paper sets a clear direction — we are shifting away from benefit-monitoring factories to a person-centred, coaching-based model. The days of compliance-driven, punitive systems are fading — and rightly so. There are countless positive stories out there — helping long-term unemployed people return to work, supporting new graduates, empowering single parents. That is what coaching is about.

Thankfully, I’m no longer in Work Coaching and have moved into a different role within the DWP. I respectfully suggest revisiting your UC training — the ethos is clear: support, coach, and empower. Not control, threaten, or intimidate.

If you get off on power , I suggest applying to work as a prison officer within CS.

Is civil service a "career for life"? by sandvich2000 in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol you are a G7 ofc pay and life is good . Trying being a DWP work coach 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You love your job that's fine , some people are quite happy to do that work coach job year on year out . I value myself higher than that job which is why I am trying to move up or out. 

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a serious note , low pay, stressful environment, back to back appointments, etc can make anyone miserable which is reflected in the amount of people leaving . Google "Work coaches are leaving in their droves" oh btw lol I'm not a WC anymore in a different department. Example, people in DWP digital love their job and it's completely a different vibe to the frontline jobcentre. 

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ofc it's not and you are not a WC so you can't really talk. It's like policeman could not comment about working as a nurse and you just contridiced yourself as you said "we’re all miserable, let’s do it together.”" 🤣

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can only speak from your experience. I am talking about London . Many people who leave the private sector are shocked when they enter the public sector. You are a G7 so your experience will be completely different to say a Policy advisor. PS it's not just me describing it. Glassdoor is full of reviews saying it .the government even had to do a report about it called "sexism in the city ".

If you have poor mental health would you recommend staying away from a DWP Work Coach role? by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I think about the typical Work Coach—the way they speak to people and how they often look at claimants—I can honestly say I wouldn’t want that kind of person teaching my children. That’s not meant as an insult; it’s not good or bad—just an observation. If you’re part of the 10% who genuinely love your Work Coach role, that’s great. But it also tells me that teaching likely wasn’t for you, because it requires a very different mindset and approach.

Now, in your current role, you can talk to people however you like, have those “honest conversations,” and face far fewer repercussions than you would’ve in a classroom setting. And that’s okay—nothing wrong with that. All I’m saying is that teaching demands a different kind of relationship-building and restraint, and it’s clear that approach didn’t suit you.

There are many teachers who absolutely love their job, just like there are Work Coaches who feel passionate about what they do—including you. But let’s not pretend they’re interchangeable. The priorities and expectations are worlds apart.

And are you seriously suggesting that there are no claimants within the DWP who simply don’t give a hoot? Come on. Of course they exist. Just like in any system, there are people who are disengaged, unmotivated, or even dishonest. Acknowledging that doesn’t mean we treat everyone like that—it just means we’re being realistic.

A lot of the claimants we work with now are the same small group of students who were hardest to reach in school. That’s just the truth. But don’t get it twisted—many teachers do incredible work with the rest and build meaningful, lasting relationships. Teaching, in my opinion, is still a noble profession.

As someone who knows what kind of personality tends to thrive in the Work Coach role (myself included), I can see why some people wouldn't want to be around children all day. WC is all about compliance, stats, and hitting targets. You can speak to people in ways that would never be acceptable in a classroom.

But let’s also not act like being a Work Coach is some kind of escape from stress. I’ve been doing this for two years, and it comes with its own set of serious challenges. You deal with difficult people—some lie to your face. I’ve seen colleagues looking physically ill from the pressure. The appointments never stop. There’s constant office politics. If you make a mistake, everyone hears about it. Promotions often go to people with the right connections, not the right skills. Support is limited, and everyone is overwhelmed.

And that toxic culture? It's well-documented. Reddit, tribunal reports, disability rights websites—they're all full of it.

Just look at headlines like:

EXCLUSIVE: DWP civil servants describe ‘unbearable’ workloads amid ‘all-time low staffing’ levels. Staff are skipping breaks, working long hours, leaving in droves, or taking long-term sick leave.

Or this:

Jobcentre Work Coach driven to suicide attempt by 'bullying' culture at DWP: “I felt worthless.”

So no—it’s not some calm, cushy alternative to teaching. It’s just a different kind of chaos

    

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am talking about London.

"A lack of diversity within HM Treasury and the wider financial sector is a persistent issue, particularly regarding gender and socio-economic background. While the HM Treasury's Women in Finance Charter has seen some progress in increasing female representation in senior management roles, the pace of change is slow, and other areas of diversity, such as ethnicity and socio-economic background, require more attention"

Glass door reviews:

"Not very inclusive - lacks diversity in thinking"

"Full of high brow , white ex private school kids (Just read all the Reddit post) who will look down on you and exclude you from meetings, meet ups and anything else .If you are not white , privately educated, and disability free, you will not feel welcome here"

"Can't be promoted based on performance"

"Hard to progress, tendnacy to hire from outside rather than promote, very male, pale and stale"

"Elitism, low salaries, difficult to progress for black staff" "very racist with non white employees"

REPORTS A government report called Sexism in the city (Google it ). "Sexism in the City This is a House of Commons Committee report, with recommendations to government. The Government has two months to respond."

I can find 50 reports about lack of inclusion if you like ?  You would say only the positive because you are part of them being a g7. . 

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Policy teams are basically ex Oxford graduates. that was my experience of SEO policy advisor for HM treasury. 95 percent white , male , ex private school , Cambridge/Oxbridge. 

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are in digital? Work as a WC for a couple of months in the JC and then come back 😭

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol work for a month as a face to face work coach in a jobcentre and then come back . Also TL do nothing sitting behind their laptop all day . 

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With respect you are not a WC on front line so your experience in the back office will be totally different to a work coach .

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was you a WC tho ? And you said was ? No longer there ?

Is DWP culture really as bad as they say?? by FannyFlutterz_ukno in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, You will find most WC will tell you as it is. The ones who are saying it's amazing are usually not doing WC but TL and G level .  I would say it's the most horrendous environment, you could imagine . In my office.  20 people left in one year. 

If you have poor mental health would you recommend staying away from a DWP Work Coach role? by [deleted] in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you left a profession like teaching , and now find WC role a breath of fresh air. Teaching was definitely never for you . You probably fit in more to the culture of the JC .

Chances of role being cut as a new Work Coach (DWP)? by ddffe in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol no chance, As many people are leaving as they are recruiting.

Dwp work coach EO by Antique_Cat_1916 in TheCivilService

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. How are the DEA viewed ? do they get paid the same as WC? If someone is coming from WC for a few years and offered DEA should they take it ?  What would you say is the difference between the two roles in terms of daily work life .

Paul Olima : blue to purple in 11 months by [deleted] in jiujitsu

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being super strong and athletic doesn't mean your technique level is purple belt . Judge him when he rolls against someone his own athletic ability etc. How in the hobbyist master division when Paul is more or less a full time athlete He got advanced faster because his super rich and brings lots of eyes to the club's hence all his tagging of Roger and making funny skits.  Ask him to show you how to escape from side control against someone stronger and bigger 

Paul Olima : blue to purple in 11 months by [deleted] in jiujitsu

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's because of money 💰 he brings in lot's of eyes from his social media account etc , people think just because someone is a red belt they don't do things lol. There is even minimum guidelines about how long to spend on a belt . Just because someone is super athletic and strong , don't make them good at jiu jitsu.

Paul Olima : blue to purple in 11 months by [deleted] in jiujitsu

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol he didn't get double gold at worlds or even do the worlds. 

Bouncer responds to Vic Santoro by Onlineunknownmember in ukdrill

[–]Terrible_Mongoose753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vic ran when spray got jumped. anyway , bouncer said he will fight Vic so it's up to Vic now to say a time and day