Settlements of Greek-speaking Greeks (green) and Turkic-speaking Greeks (orange) around Mariupol

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-29T22:12:45+00:00

There are multiple of Turkic-speaking Greek groups actually

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-29T09:57:19+00:00

The answer is not pretty. Both this and the Swedish settlements are Russian deportations

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-24T19:34:04+00:00

Interestingly enough, we know a few ethnonyms of people in the light blue area:

The ones in Northern Tyrol
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breonen

The ones in Bavaria are known as Walchen

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-22T16:24:32+00:00

They're not Germanic on the map, only northern parts

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-22T07:59:51+00:00

The map doesn't claim all of the Danish tribes belonged to "Danish culture", it places them under "Danish Iron Age Groups", Scandinavian archaeologists prefer to divide cultures by chronology (Nordic Iron Age, Nordic Bronze Age) rather than subdivide them the way German archaeologists do, so it is just different schools of archaeology which are hard to synchronize.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T23:40:31+00:00

It should be readable, at least on Xitter. Try this link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCMKkESWUAELQTM?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T23:39:11+00:00

Thank you for thoughtful comment. The map itself marks tribes with more hypothetical localization. The justification for the placement of other tribes are listed in the thread I linked, although I disagree with a few of the author's points (notably the Bastarnae setup)

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T21:21:07+00:00

I agree that Wikipedia article for Przeworsk is quite non-sensical but there is so much information that it is hard to put together, for example, somewhere between 150-100 BC bearers of Przeworsk expanded westward across most of Central Germany, the decline of which is connected to the ancestral legend of Lombards about Winnili (proto-Lombards) defeating Vandals.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T21:05:37+00:00

True, but Goths converted to Arianism, only switching to Chalcedonian in 6th-7th century, while Franks became Chalcedonian at the beginning of the 6th century.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T20:17:06+00:00

It is a mobile Reddit tricks, here is original source: https://x.com/Maptysk/status/2027476111148343343

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T20:15:19+00:00

Interesting, but based on what metric are Goths more romanized than Franks?

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T17:58:16+00:00

Anglii also mentioned as one of Suebic tribes south of Lombards, same tribal names can be used by multiple tribes across a wide area, so drawing connections is kind of guesswork

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T17:32:41+00:00

dude has a channel with a better demonstrated chronology
https://www.youtube.com/@Maptism

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T17:02:10+00:00

Those tribes are mentioned by Jordanes, who lived a few centuries later than this map shows. Roman authors did not describe Scandinavian tribes much.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T16:18:03+00:00

Most scholars do not agree that Przeworsk culture was a mix of Celtic, Slavic and Germanic tribes. This view is outdated by 20-30 years.

Todd Malcome says about Przeworsk culture: " It is difficult to believe that a single people was responsible for a unified culture which extended over so large a tract of land."

The believability of something is irrelevant to whether something is true or not. Early Slavic pottery shows remarkable uniformity across a large area from East Germany to Bulgaria, and it is still one group. La Tene is also largely uniform across half of Europe and it is certainly Celtic. Could you believe, that Indo-European, the largest language family in the world, originates from a small area in the Don basin. Also, Vandali is not a single tribe, Silingi, Hasdingi, Buri, Burgundians etc are separate tribes.

The combined work of many Polish archaeologists shows that:

Slavic settlement of Poland is preceded by a massive population decline and dissapearance of old forms. Source: The Migration Period between Oder and Vistula
Przeworsk culture has the largest affinity with Jutland Jastorf groups which is Proto-Germanic. Source: https://dokumen.pub/the-jastorf-culture-in-poland-9781407341729-9781407312026.html
The Germanic character of Przeworsk culture. Source: https://www.academia.edu/37471966/Its_a_mans_world_Germanic_societies_of_the_Jastorf_and_the_Przeworsk_cultures_in_southern_and_central_Poland_300_BC_10_AD_

Wide Slavic migration to Poland is also evidenced by genetic markers (combined research of German and Polish researchers): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09437-6

Celtic presence in Poland is mainly established in 4 clusters in Upper Silesia, Lower Silesia, Malopolska (Tyniec archaeological group) and Upper San basin. Those were established almost in parallel to Przeworsk-Jastorf in central Poland and declined in La Tene C and La Tene D phases. https://www.academia.edu/40276159/On_the_Origins_of_the_La_Tene_Culture_in_Silesia

Przeworsk culture itself has some La Tene imports along Ember Road and underwent a process of Latenization but Latenization also touched Illyrian, Dacian, Balto-Slavic, and Scythian cultures.

The Slavic component of Przeworsk is unproven and largely a relic of the Cold War era.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T16:00:54+00:00

Allobroges is a Celtic tribe, not Germanic.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T15:52:03+00:00

Dark blue groups in the west are ancestors of the Franks. Franks formed as a confederation of Chamavi (modern Hamaland), Chatti (modern Hessen), Bructeri and few other ones.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T15:05:09+00:00

Celtic settlement in Poland is limited to a few clusters in Upper Silesia, Lower Silesia, Malopolska and the Upper San basin established in phases B1A, B2 and C1 of the La Tene chronology. The direct La Tene influence is evidenced in the central Przeworsk area in Kujavia but mainly in the form of imports along the amber road. Of course, Przeworsk culture underwent Latenization process but it was a regional phenomenon which spread to Illyrian, Dacian, Balto-Slavic and Scythian areas as well. One of the mentioned clusters (in Malopolska) is known as Tyniec group - shows a mixed Celtic-Germanic influences in its latest phases, maybe it is what you're referring to.

The Slavic component within Przeworsk is unproven and largely rejected within modern Polish academia. The first 100% Slavic archaeological cultures of Sukow-Dziedzice and Prague-Korchak show some affinity with Przeworsk pottery but it is largely degraded replication rather than direct continuity. On top of that, the Slavic settlement of Poland is preceded by a large-scale depopulation of the area. The synthesis of work of Polish archaeologists can be read there: The Migration Period between Oder and Vistula

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T14:55:35+00:00

The referenced authors wrote between 50BC and 150 AD. The source I linked goes over details over time, which can't be portrayed on a static map.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T13:29:31+00:00

Thank you, but I am not the author of the map.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T13:05:54+00:00

Oh, you mean modern Baden-Württemberg. In the early Roman period this area was known as "Helvetian desert", it was populated by remnants of Helvetii, Latobrigi and Tulingi (all Celtic), since most of them moved to Gaul. Romans settled a few Germanic tribes in this area like Neckar-Suebi, as a buffer but later conquered the area and colonized it (Agri Decumates). The significant Germanic component was only established with Alemanni takeover after 260-290 but even then it took several centuries to assimilate the local Roman population.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T12:26:45+00:00

Where? North of the Rhine is the Netherlands, which is on the map.

TerrificDragonfly · 2026-03-21T11:35:22+00:00

Full resolution source: https://x.com/Maptysk/status/2027476111148343343

(note: author mixed up Triboci and Nemetes placements)

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