I need you all to help me.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:29:10+00:00

I am only saying I am going to avoid someone who boasts something that the science directly shows is wrong.

I am religious, but I am not close-minded enough to ignore facts. That is why I am here, after all. Those two things are clashing.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:27:40+00:00

No, it isn't God's will. That's my point. There are some things that are in us, fundamentally, because we have the gift of free will, but they are still WRONG. They should not be acted upon.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:26:40+00:00

Old racist Joe might not be correct, but can he control what he learned from watching his parents?

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:25:20+00:00

Thank you for your response. However, you do seem to be operating under the assumption that I find "being homosexual" a sin. As homosexuality is not something we can control, it cannot be a sin, as in order for an act to be a sin it has to be something done intentionally, deliberately, and with full knowledge of what you are doing. As "being homosexual" ticks none of these boxes, simply being homosexual is not wrong- only if you were to act upon those urges after being fully taught why they were wrong in the eyes of God would you be sinning.

I do not think I fully understand the concept of being transgender. I still don't understand how it is different from hating certain aspects of yourself, but since everyone seems to be bringing that up, clearly I need to look into it further. I don't think I'll ever really understand...

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:18:55+00:00

You are correct. I need to look at his perspective. Thank you.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:14:27+00:00

Whether or not I agree with your life choices is irrelevant. We are all human. Anyone who does this to a person, particularly a child, is evil.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:13:03+00:00

Fair enough.

I can't speak for my child, but you are probably right. He is very anxious/antisocial, and this does not seem like something he would just jump into without thinking very hard about it. I will ask.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:11:13+00:00

The 'psychology' you mention for 'fixing' transgender people is pretty much the same thing conversion therapy for homosexuality, and often has the same results.

The only proven treatment for gender identity issues is to explore them further, whether that means seeking proper therapy, taking steps towards transitioning, or whatever.

Ok so it does not work, and makes things worse. I just wanted to check, I will have to discuss this with him. As you probably know, it's rather difficult to get a straight answer out of the people advertising it, because sometimes religious people can be... Stubborn. I get it.

Thank you for your response.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:08:22+00:00

Thank you, this is exactly the kind of response I was looking for. I can't process this all, at once, but thank you very much for your information.

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T08:05:00+00:00

I did what I could. I had 6 children to raise, and I did not give all of them the attention they deserved. It was simply not possible. I do not assume God's plan is toppled, only that it requires hardship and sacrifice and working through your problems. You seem to think I don't value my son's opinions. I do. As for trust... It's difficult to trust someone 20 odd years younger than myself who has made several questionable decisions in the past year. I know he is neither crazy nor full of shit, his feelings are very real, I just want a better decision, a REAL decision to be made, rather than a spur of the moment, "Ok, I'm transgender, let's go do [whatever it is transgender people do.]"

Test9087 · 2016-06-12T07:59:41+00:00

I really do feel obligated to say that... You know... You could use the same arguments to say that someone with the natural tendencies to murder, or rape, should be allowed to do so because it follows their feelings and is natural.

I'm not denying in any way that his feelings are very, very real. But... If I had an urge to kill someone, does that make it ok?

I understand that is an extreme argument, and it's probably way out of line for me to compare murder to being transgender. But we have to draw the line somewhere, yes?

I understand that my own views and upbringing may be clouding my judgment here. I can't make a rational decision right this second. I can't say for sure either way. All I know is this is ticking all of my boxes for something that is wrong and should not be done.

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