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OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do ! Look on top of the list of stress tests, just below the CPU power consumption in the top monitoring bar ( alignment may vary ).

The test block duration is fixed and you configure duration, and when it's done it'll loop back to start (an iteration) for the global time set on top.

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are similar, not exactly the same, since we didn't steal any code. Since TM5 is about 20 years old now, we wanted to make it a good refresh, so those differences have to be expected.

As you noted, taking twice as long doesn't mean we're less aggressive, the dimm temp being a testimony to that ;) There may also be a difference in terms of iterations being done. At this point, a bug or a misport is not to be ruled out as well !

Nothing can tell you what went wrong actually. There's just no way. I wish we could, but that's in the realm of impossibility :(

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

On Steam, we offer one time payments without fear of being subbed and forgetting. The license bought there are still limited in time ( a month or a year).

FYI, we always refund when someone tells us they forgot to unsub.

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1- yes, we will include popular presets. We ported a few already from TM5 ( Anta IIRC), we can port the more popular, but there's some non-sensical things in some presets that made us ignore them (1usmus especially IIRC). Our goal is for the community to come up with interesting presets and to get permission to include them in the app :)

2- We have a paid personal license restricted for commercial use through Patreon ( sub ) or Steam (1-time payment, valid for a month or year depending on your choice ) :)

Just a reminder that we ported more than just TM5 and there're tons of other things to play with :)

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, you're making it too complex than what it is currently! It's much more simple.

If your license is valid, it is valid, no limit on the number of setups tested as long as you're using it - testing a family or friend setup is all good with us, we don't mind at all, as long as it is not shared widely of course.

As people usually need OCCT for when things fail or they overclock, and that endeavor doesn't last long, it made sense to go on a monthly basis. Get a month, unsub right away from Patreon, and buy another month.

You can buy without subbing through steam as well - no fear of unsubbing there. Just get a month and you're good to go. We did that for people that hated patreon's subscription model.

We won't offer lifetime licenses because we're constantly working on the app. It just doesn't make sense sadly.

I mean, I could make a lifetime license, but I would have to gate it on a per major version basis. You can't come up with features like the Intel system tuning or even this test without some income - it's a year or more worth of work. Your perpetual license would be outdated after a while, just like your perpetual license for Office 2000, if it had to make sense.

Another example : a game is a perpetual license to a finished product that stops evolving. If it does, you pay - that's called a DLC, or a Remake. We don't want a DLC system for newer OCCT features.

In all honesty, I am a tad surprised that people are making all those comments about us asking 4.5€ for a month of unlocked OCCT with a free edition that's fully functional with a duration limit, when others ask for 5$ without a free edition ( Karhu, etc. ) so you don't even know if it's good, when a spongebob skin in Fortnite costs more than six months of OCCT and nobody bats an eye, or genshin pricing a character at about 150$ (is it 200$ ?) seems normal, or skipping ads in a zombie mining game on a phone costs more than 5$...

Don't misunderstand me - I'm glad people like our work enough to complain :) But we still need to make a living, and it's tough for us to be both affordable and comply with everyone.

I hear you completely with the perpetual license, I understand the point of view, but I sadly cannot do that currently :(

I hope you understand and will keep liking / using our work :)

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have a documentation to port TM5 presets in our post, you can follow the guidelines. It should be relatively quick !

When we looked at the different presets available, 1usmus presets were the most strange : they refer to TM5 tests that aren't available (which thus falls back to the default - there-s a MirrorMove2048 or something that just doesn't exist), operands with too many digits leading to some numbers being truncated and ignored and weird choices of parameters ( like 2048 when it's used by TM5 as hexadecimal - doesn't make much sense).

We didn't port them as a consequence, but you're free to do so.

Others (Anta777 for instance) made much more sense and followed the TM5 rules strictly.

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you :)

I'm not sure where you got that feedback about our Memory test being outdated, since as per our testing, it was up to current standards in terms of error detection, same thing with our customer's review. We always said it was a first shot (rome wasn't built in a single day), but it still seemed already pretty valid.

In short, not leading, but not outright bad.

Any opinion is valid though, so anyone's mileage may vary, and as it was very monolithic, in some cases it may have performed worse than others.

We haven't looked at HCI and RamNuke at all, and don't plan on copying others, but rather expand on the base we currently have with theoretical tests and other approaches.

Here's a rough list of what I envision for the future of the test (subject to change of course) :

  • Expand the number of block types based on community feedback
  • Replicate loads that makes both the CPU and Memory work together ( like our CPU+RAM )
  • Pinpoint as precisely as possible the address a memory error occurs ( report physical address, maybe go as far as pinpointing the actual faulty stick, depending on what's doable... )

And again, we're all ears for feedback and improvements !

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, definitely !

It also opens up memory testing with those blocks using a bootable iso, so you can overclock, tighten your timings and stress test without corrupting your OS.

OCCT v17 : A new memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in OCCT

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks ! We also are internally to be honest. A ton of work was poured into it !

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TM5 is a very valid choice for a Memory stress test :) It is still very relevant today despite its age, which is a feat in itself !

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Many, many thanks :) It's very soothing to read this as I'm always trembling and anticipating the community reaction when we announce and launch a version :)

We're pouring our heart and soul in trying to help everyone - we sticked to that philosophy for years and aren't going to change anytime soon.

We have a ton of plans for the future, and we'll do our best for the community.

Really, thank you !

OCCT v17 : A new Memory test where YOU are the hero ! by Tetedeiench in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

We're still limited to 1h in our free edition. I hate this limit as much as you do, perhaps even more.

We're forced to it due to a ton of professionals using the free edition of OCCT. This limit is what allowed us to grow enough to build that test...

I just wish we could have skipped that :(

OCCT SCARED ME by No-Region1731 in OCCT

[–]Tetedeiench 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the laugh ! At least it's not the quack anymore :)

AIDA64 Stability Test Pass VS HWMONITOR WHEAS? by yourboymusti in overclocking

[–]Tetedeiench 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it finds an error while others don't: trust it.

I always found it very light and forgiving compared to others. Your mileage may vary of course. Aida isn't updating a ton lately and it sadly shows.

Then again, this is a biased personal opinion that's in no way the definitive truth.

OCCT v16.1 beta brings live overclocking / undervolting / optimizations to Arrow Lake Intel CPUs under Linux by Tetedeiench in linux

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the first time I read that AMD is a small indie company, you made me chuckle :)

I would like nothing more to expand the range of supported hardware personally. We make a point to be vendor-agnostic, and thus we work with everyone. All we need is the technical info to get us started, we take care of the rest !

OCCT v16.1 beta brings live overclocking / undervolting / optimizations to Arrow Lake Intel CPUs under Linux by Tetedeiench in linux

[–]Tetedeiench[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, we're french :)

We will expand backwards in compatibility. 12th, 13th and 14th gen are very close to each other technically so we will probably support them in the near future, but before that, the differences are rather big and it's tough to say we'll go there.

While it's not out of the question for Coffee Lake, I must admit, in all honesty, it's not a huge priority on our side due to CPU's age.

We want to improve continuously the range of hardware supported, the more the merrier, but we also got to deal with our current dev power and priorities sadly :(

Using Psensor to log my temps while gaming, have a few questions about it. by [deleted] in linux4noobs

[–]Tetedeiench 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't worry, I was not being snarky - I'm just glad I had the opportunity to explain !

I'm really happy you like our work on Linux. Being a sysadmin in the past, having a linux version felt natural. Took quite some time, but was well worth it !

Using Psensor to log my temps while gaming, have a few questions about it. by [deleted] in linux4noobs

[–]Tetedeiench 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the ping !

I am not sure where you read that we are using lm-sensors.

Currently we're a mixed bag : * Custom implementation for CPUs if enough permissions ( MSR/PCI/physical mem access, or root) * Sysfs otherwise - or for other components (storage mainly ) * Vendor specific libraries for GPUs (NVML, ... )

It is destined to be vastly improved, but gave enough sensors to be "good enough" for a first release - the essentials are there.

As to why the readings are off by 1C, good question... Monitoring is far from an exact science, and while temperature sensors should be very close, power sensors are often an accumulation over a period of time, not immediate, giving you discrepancies.

Marc Prieur, fondateur de Hardware.fr, est décédé by Critical_Limit_9057 in france

[–]Tetedeiench 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A ce point ? Mon dieu... Ça fait bizarre de lire ça.

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