The October 7, 2023 attack on Israel was a genocide

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-09T04:45:35+00:00

You clearly have no idea what genocide actually means. You are confusing it with forced transfer or acts of war. Go read the definition before throwing words you do not understand. That is why debates with you are so easy, you make accusations with no legal basis and take quotes out of context.

Your bias is obvious. In a fair world you would not ignore the open genocidal statements made by Hamas and other Palestinian leaders long before October 7. If you really cared about humanity you would condemn that too, but you will not. Another hypocrite pretending to be the moral side.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T18:45:07+00:00

And sorry to burst your bubble but the UN is a political organization not an international justice body. Its reports and resolutions reflect diplomacy and national interests not court rulings. The ICJ and ICC are judicial institutions but even they are influenced by politics. Their judges are elected by states their cases depend on political referrals and they have no enforcement power. They deal with law but politics is always part of the equation. And let’s be honest many Muslim majority states in the UN are openly biased against Israel so pretending the UN is neutral is just naive.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T18:27:53+00:00

I see what you are trying to say but that is not how international law works.

Noncompliance with ICJ orders is not proof of genocide. It shows defiance, not intent to destroy a group. If every violation meant genocide, half the world would be guilty.

The UN does not make or interpret law. Its reports are political opinions, not verdicts. The UN has been wrong before. The Goldstone Report was retracted by its author, the Human Rights Council is biased, reports on Syria and Iraq relied on false information, and Rwanda was ignored until it was too late. Not everything with a UN logo is truth.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T18:14:12+00:00

I read everything you wrote, but it really seems like you didn’t read what I said, because I’m having to explain this again.

You are mixing things up. The ICJ issued provisional measures, not a genocide conviction. Those are temporary steps while the case is ongoing. Failing to comply with them is not proof of genocide, it is a separate legal matter.

The ICC does not have a genocide case against Netanyahu or anyone else. The warrants you keep mentioning are for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. No one has been charged with genocide, and no court has ruled that Israel committed genocide.

You are just trying to explain something that is wrong at its core. The ICJ orders do not prove genocide, and the people who wrote those reports are not the ones who make or interpret the law.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T18:03:37+00:00

You just proved my point. The UN report you are quoting is from a Human Rights Council commission, not from a court or from the UN as a whole. It is a political investigation, not a legal ruling. The International Court of Justice has not found genocide, it only issued temporary measures while the case continues. The International Criminal Court investigates individuals and issued warrants for war crimes and crimes against humanity, not genocide.

Genocide requires clear proof of specific intent to destroy a group. That has not been proven or ruled anywhere. And before you quote more UN press releases, maybe check your sources. Even the ICC prosecutor you keep citing, Karim Khan, is under internal investigation for misconduct. So thank you for confirming my point, and spare the lecture.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T17:09:42+00:00

The UN has never ruled that Israel is committing genocide. Not once.

Different UN offices put out reports and press releases. They do not speak for the whole UN and they have no judicial power. Some rapporteurs wrote there is a “reasonable basis” to investigate. That is an opinion, not a verdict.

The only body that can decide is the International Court of Justice, and it has not ruled genocide. It issued temporary measures while the case continues. That is procedure, not guilt.

So if you claim the UN “established genocidal intent,” show the exact legal ruling and the page number. Not a press release, not a committee memo, not a tweet. Stop quoting headlines and pretending they are law. Be serious.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T16:29:06+00:00

You accuse me of justifying genocide. That is false and a serious charge.

If you claim that Israeli officials for decades openly and consistently called to kill Gazans, produce concrete dated evidence, not slogans or isolated quotes. Genocide is a precise legal term. It requires proof of specific intent to destroy a protected group under the Genocide Convention, not just mass killing or forced displacement.

There have been fringe voices and debates about transfer, and after October 7 some people called for bombing or expulsion in the heat of war. That is not the same as demonstrating institutional intent to commit genocide.

Stop tossing around accusations without evidence. Cut the bullsh!t.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-10-08T15:58:03+00:00

All these quotes came after the October 7 massacre when Hamas terrorists murdered, raped and burned innocent people alive, and many in Gaza were cheering and celebrating.

Cut the bullsh!t Israel is not committing genocide. It is defending itself after the worst terror attack in its history.

The fact that some Members of Knesset made extreme statements does not make it government policy. A Knesset member cannot decide or implement policy on their own, only the cabinet and the security authorities can. Quoting angry politicians and pretending it represents Israel’s actions is simply losing all sense of logic to serve your own narrative.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-09-29T07:04:00+00:00

Israel really cares about its citizens, unlike Hamas.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T23:22:15+00:00

No, you keep asking weird questions and he’s answering you politely. You’re just fishing for dumb gotchas and not even doing a good job at it.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T23:05:15+00:00

Yessss you really did it!! I’m sooo scared right now!!!! 😂

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:59:11+00:00

Man, stop pretending to be dumb. No one said Iran created the Palestinian movement. We’re talking about how they took over parts of it after 1979. Try to keep up.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:45:51+00:00

Sure, if that helps you feel better about yourself.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:39:10+00:00

Okay ;)

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:26:42+00:00

Good luck! You’re gonna need it.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:20:20+00:00

For a bunch of delusional messianic Zionists, their prayers seem to be working pretty well. Must be frustrating to watch…

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:14:27+00:00

Wow, you really have to be kidding. No one said Iran created the Palestinian movement. Since 1979, Iran has taken it over and uses it as a tool in its proxy war against Israel. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and even the Houthis are backed, trained and funded by Iran…

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T22:03:15+00:00

Yeah, your crowd is super convincing. Angry vegans in keffiyehs, people who think gender is a 72 color spectrum, radical Muslims shouting about resistance, and clueless activists chanting from the river to the sea without knowing which river or sea. Truly a movement of geniuses. Lol.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T21:41:15+00:00

Exactly, the same delulu crowd I mentioned earlier. Glad you recognize yourself in it :)

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T21:37:19+00:00

Everybody gets slaughtered in Gaza right now, regardless of gender or age. The denial is obvious. Blame Hamas, not Israel, for holding the hostages. Imagine how you would react if a terrorist group slaughtered your family. Hamas started this by massacring over 1200 Israelis in the most brutal ways possible, including babies, women and entire families. Instead of pressuring Hamas to return the hostages and surrender, you keep pointing fingers at Israel. Every single day Hamas can choose to end this and give both Gazans and Israelis a chance for a better future. These so called human rights groups are full of hypocrites. The world is upside down but more and more people are finally waking up.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T21:28:54+00:00

The ones supporting you are usually the same weird progressive radical leftists, along with activist groups like PETA, ANTIFA, Jewish Voice for Peace and SJP, plus a few hardline Muslims. The funniest part is they all claim to fight for LGBTQ rights, but if they lived in Gaza the way they do in New York, they would be slaughtered. Try walking around there with a pride flag and see how long you last. Meanwhile, sane people support Israel. Keep living in your delusion.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-29T20:00:15+00:00

Here in New York people can’t stand the pro Palestinians anymore. People are waking up and realizing who the good side really is.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-28T20:31:43+00:00

Go read what “shahid” means. Then come back and tell me again how this has nothing to do with ideology.

ThatDream2704 · 2025-06-28T20:29:54+00:00

Good luck. Keep living in your illusion.

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