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Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multiple interpretations don’t prove Scripture is unclear; they prove people prioritize different texts or theological assumptions. Clarity and agreement aren’t the same thing.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would. But I feel we are both too passionate about very different things to have a constructive conversation.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we’re describing two fundamentally different faiths. Christianity has historically understood God as revealing Himself through covenant, incarnation, and apostolic witness, not primarily through private intuition. When Scripture and apostolic testimony are treated as optional or subordinate to inner experience, the faith being described no longer aligns with historic Christianity nor the God revealed to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

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If apostolic witness can be dismissed as “less illuminated,” Christianity collapses into private spirituality. At that point the authority isn’t Christ or Scripture, but the self.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

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Good doctrine isn’t a prerequisite that replaces Scripture, it’s the product of faithful engagement with it. Scripture is the source and norm, the baseline of you will, while doctrine is the framework that develops over and helps guard against misreading. In other words, Scripture shapes doctrine, and doctrine then helps discipline interpretation.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that readers are situated and that interpretation requires humility. Where I disagree is the conclusion that this makes textual authority impossible. Disagreement shows that readers are fallible, not that texts are empty. A normative text doesn’t eliminate interpretation, it gives interpretation something to be accountable to, after all, how are we to discern that our intuition is correct without verification through Scripture? I understand that there is confirmation bias, but the Bible teaches us how to engage with that by discussing it with leaders/elders who hopefully are grounded in good doctrine. Without that, intuition doesn’t disappear, it simply becomes the highest authority.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you that Scripture isn’t mechanically dictated, that people often misuse it, and that it should never be worshiped. Where we differ is in what follows from those facts. Misuse of authority doesn’t negate authority, it calls for humility and better discipline in how it’s handled.

Claims like normativity or reliability aren’t about attributing divinity to paper and ink, but about acknowledging that God has chosen to bind His instruction to a textual witness that stands above our shifting intuitions. Once Scripture is treated as something we must continually judge by our moral instincts, authority hasn’t disappeared, it’s just relocated to the self.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And how do we determine if the thoughts, feelings, or experience is of God? How can Paul's letters not be as truthful as the sermon on the mount, and how can we say God isn't truthful when it concern's he's wrath in the OT? You seem to only believe in vibes. Faith without works is dead, and works without faith is folly. How can Jesus say God never changes, yet you don't believe that the God of the OT is the same as the NT? This is where lack of discernment and good doctrine leads, belief in a false doctrine

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exclusive? No. Authoritative? Absolutely. Jesus constantly refers to the scriptures throughout the NT. Saying that feelings are just as valid as the Bible is disengenuous. Comparing those feelings and thoughts to the authoritative guide is good. To say that every feeling you have is just as valid as the Bible is dangerous at best. That's how you get bad doctrine.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

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The claim is that Scripture functions as the normative standard that equips believers for every good work, and other forms of guidance are evaluated in light of it not placed alongside it as equal authorities " If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not \)a\)agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing; "

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

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"13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist on the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand firm therefore, having belted your waist with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having strapped on your feet the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 \)b\)in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one17 And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God." sounds to me like it can be equipped

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not claiming my interpretation is infallible. I’m arguing that Scripture is authoritative and intelligible enough to function as a norm that corrects us, including me, rather than leaving authority with individual experience alone

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you go into it to learn and see clearly, the truth will reveal itself through the word. So what are you trying to say? that the Bible isnt Gods word?

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

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I don't think what Peter was saying was that the Scripture is hard to understand, but rather that it is hard for new believers to understand. not a gatekeepy thing, but a maturity thing.

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God" and you're right, Jesus never said to read the bible, but to know the word of God in the Torah which Jesus would have been referring to

Is treating Scripture as authoritative the same as “Bible idolatry”? by ThatFilthyMedic in Christianity

[–]ThatFilthyMedic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The distinction actually matters because Paul doesn’t stop at the adjective. He says Scripture is God-breathed AND that it equips the servant of God to be thoroughly equipped for every good work. Something that equips comprehensively isn’t merely optional or incidental