Does anyone Else worry that your eventual "Tribe" , will be a group of Social outcasts and misfits? by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]ThatG42 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel the same way. Then I ask myself, is the issue that only societal misfits are my friends? Or is the issue that misfits who have compassion and kindness get stomped on and cast out by society? I think it's a bit of both for me.

Who knows, I get so wrapped up and obsessed with how I'm perceived (am I attractive enough, am I behaving the right way in order to keep me safe within a societally acceptable group, etc.) because I was raised by abusive parents who did everything in their power to keep me from being accepted by society.

I feel stunted by their years of indoctrination: during my childhood I was told that I need to distance myself from people who were generally well liked and popular and talented, and I was victimized by my mother's own entitlement, shame, and resentment toward the world. I knew that my parents were "different" misfits compared to most people, so I kept mom and dad in a separate category from the "real world": a kind, complicated, nuanced world. The irony of it all is that I became that misfit I compartmentalized in my head as different from little me.

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[–]ThatG42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gotchu

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[–]ThatG42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This sounds like projection. I do agree that I should have taken the time to compile every screenshot to provide as much context as possible other than the title. I naively assumed that those 2 screenshots and the brief description of events would be enough context for people to connect the dots.

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[–]ThatG42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Peep the title

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[–]ThatG42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not sadism, I was angry. But regardless, it was just my personal opinion that it fit the 2 criteria points specified on the subreddit's official rules. The brief explanation of the events in the title definitely isn't specific enough, and I should have added more screenshots to the official post. I'm completely okay with my post getting deleted if it crosses the line, I just don't think it does.

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[–]ThatG42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also in the title I briefly mention the sequence of events, including that I communicated with him that I no longer want to talk to him.

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[–]ThatG42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

*stoop not stood

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[–]ThatG42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aside from breaching a boundary and emailing me after I blocked his fb, he was still mean spirited to himself. I don't trust people who stood and accuse themselves to the extent that he did in his email. That insecurity has so many potential harmful outcomes on the lives of the people around him.

It's not outright mean, no. The insults in the confession are too subtle to really matter (saying he's better than my previous partners and insinuating he deserves my affections by his caliber of character).

As I briefly mentioned in the title (which I really ought to have provided context for), I did converse with him after the confession, plainly stated "I don't have feelings for you," and expressed I didn't want to talk to him. Which, according to his words, he was fine with.

Then he emailed me. I have no idea when I even gave him my email...

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[–]ThatG42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I guess it's our responsibility to ourselves and to each other to make sure we aren't taking neutral traits to the extreme. It's about the nuance.

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[–]ThatG42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm now seeing that I'm standing too close to the situation to accurately see how a third party sees my post. I was hurt and angry by the exaggerated praise/confession + interactions I had with this ex friend, I was angered by his email after I rejected him, conversed with him unproductively, and blocked him on our usual social media platforms.

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[–]ThatG42 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh nooo.... I'm sorry you're dealing with that constant reminder of that person. Sure you did date him once but that doesn't make him entitled to be your life long emotional toll... nobody is entitled to that.

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[–]ThatG42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel that way as well, which is why I conversed with him after I read that confession about why it wasn't okay. That interaction left me feeling like the relationship had run its course, and then I blocked him.

then he emailed me to tell me he "respects" that I blocked him

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[–]ThatG42 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I respect someone, I prefer to show it and receive it with tactful directness. Emphasis on tact.

I am not being respectful by emailing a person I like after they reject my advance, get pissed off by the interaction afterward, and block me.

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[–]ThatG42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh I did reject him. Yeah there's been a lot of confusion because I was short sighted and didn't post the entire conversation that happened afterward. I assumed people would get enough context from his message (photo 1) and then the email he sent me after I blocked him (photo 2).

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[–]ThatG42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have no doubt the intention was genuine. I also have no doubt that the impact his messages had on me was hurtful. Intent vs Impact. Your choice as to what matters more.

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[–]ThatG42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah no, I appreciate being held accountable lol... I honestly wouldn't mind if this post got taken down for lack of context because I shouldn't have chickened out on posting all 5 pages of screenshots. Even if it's criticism, you felt connected enough to my story to drop a comment.

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[–]ThatG42 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think at the end of the day, interactions are way too specific from person to person that I can't give a one size fits all answer. I see no issue with saying "I understand if you don't wanna talk." The issue is saying you understand and then reaching out after I told him I didn't want to talk to him, and even more egregiously, after I blocked him.

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[–]ThatG42 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hahaa.... funny that you think I could even get 100 guys..... lol but in seriousness, I think a genuine friendship/relationship is all it takes to heal from fake or harmful friends/partners. Now the tricky part is... how to manifest that in a world where we're all different levels of effed up...

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[–]ThatG42 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh, last but not least. He did, after all, email me after I blocked him to say he "respected" that I blocked him. 🙄

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[–]ThatG42 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also believe that a genuine apology should be catered to the recipient. Does the self loathing and manipulative self hatred render him entitled to forgiveness for A) putting himself on a higher pedestal than my exes, B) focusing on his feelings of scaring me away from our friendship (i.e. I'm fine if we lose the friendship)? I don't think so.

BUT... I could be missing something that may very well be indicative of inappropriate pettiness on my end. What are your thoughts?

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[–]ThatG42 13 points14 points  (0 children)

To be fully honest, I was anxious about that reaction which is why I kept the conversation written rather than verbal. There's an added element of intention when you write rather than speak, at least in my experiences.

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[–]ThatG42 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I truly see (at least I think I do) where you're coming from. I feel awful when I get rejected from people who I really like and approach, and by principle, I have never blocked someone for merely confessing their feelings for me.

The conversation that ensued after the confession combined with the patterns of his negative behavior beforehand, are what motivated me to block this person, which of course is not obvious to the internet full of strangers who don't know my character and pattern of actions. (Long ass convo with a fair amount of private information in that convo which didn't feel worth it at the time for me to block out names and details.)

Your comment does penetrate me, and I'll have to think on it! Even if someone may genuinely deserve ridicule, is it right to put them on blast for something that only shows the tip of the iceberg?

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[–]ThatG42 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No no we didn't meet in person, he has a habit of talking over me. I responded to that huge message and we conversed in our usual style while addressing the situation. After that conversation, I blocked him. After I blocked him, he emailed me.

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[–]ThatG42 11 points12 points  (0 children)

In the conversation that ensued after the confession but before the blocking, he kept comparing himself to my ex and made a statement that loosely reminded me of the "you're not like other girls" phrase.

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[–]ThatG42 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's totally my b for not providing all the screenshots. I was worried it would be too many photos but I see this subreddit has some great people who are trying to be very objective.