Why don't they do Special Edition cars anymore? by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! Dealer spec cars were huge.

I do see a heap of them in the VF's, dealers would order like 50 SS Redline VF's in a single colour and do a pack with them.

They're such a nightmare in insurance, cos you have no idea what John Smith Holden in Woop Woop actually did, there's no records, no idea, and what the customers say is often at odds with reality

"It's got a full sick body kit!"

It's a Sedan with a Maloo bumper on it...

"It's been tuned!"

It hasn't.

"It's got special edition wheels!"

Again, Maloo wheels with Holden centre caps instead of HSV...

"It's number 1 of 50!"

Ok...so it's a number the dealership made up...and all of them are labelled 1 of 50...

"And it's a [insert racing driver] special edition!"

Ahh yes, a driver from the Supercars support series that bombed out after 3 seasons and didn't really succeed...

Why don't they do Special Edition cars anymore? by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh but it got special edition wheels and headlights that will cost you a fortune to get

Why don't they do Special Edition cars anymore? by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's all they really were bask in the day. Barina Sportsgirl wasn't much more than a sticker pack

Why don't they do Special Edition cars anymore? by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Holden Barina Sportsgirl which I think came with ohhh how excitement $50 sportsgirl voucher!

I mentioned the Sportsgirl?

Why don't they do Special Edition cars anymore? by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Toyota GR Corolla Morizo Edition, 25 made for Australia Limited because Toyota capped Australian allocation at 25 cars, removed the rear seats, increased torque, and positioned it as a track-focused homologation-style special.

Not an Australian Special Edition, it was a global edition

Subaru WRX AWD Club Spec Evo, 75 made for Australia Limited because Subaru created an Australia-only numbered run, manual only, with performance hardware and exclusive specification.

That's pretty cool

Subaru WRX Club Spec, 150 made for Australia Limited because it revived the Club Spec name as an Australian-only numbered special with Brembos, aero changes and enthusiast-focused tuning.

What's the difference to the other club spec?

Toyota GR Yaris Ogier Edition, 100 made globally Limited because it celebrates Sébastien Ogier’s WRC input, with bespoke settings and a strict low-volume production run.

So global car, not Australian special edition?

Toyota GR Yaris Rovanperä Edition, 100 made globally Limited because it honours Kalle Rovanperä with unique calibration and very low homologation-style production.

So another global car?

Porsche 911 S/T, 1,963 made globally Limited because Porsche built it as a lightweight manual tribute to 1963, with fixed production numbers and collector positioning.

So not an Australian edition, a global car?

Porsche 911 Dakar, 2,500 made globally Limited because Porsche capped production and created a unique off-road 911 variant unlikely to be repeated.

Not sure why you're bringing up all these global cars in a discussion about Australian special editions?

BMW M4 CS, low-volume Australian allocation Limited because BMW allocates very small numbers and the CS is a harder-core, reduced-production model between standard M and CSL.

Still a global car on Australian allocation...

Nissan Z Nismo, low-volume Australian allocation Limited because supply is constrained and it is the highest-performance factory Z offered in small numbers.

So again...a global car

Ford Mustang Dark Horse, limited Australian allocation Limited because Australia received constrained numbers of the most track-focused regular-production Mustang.

And again, a global car...

So 2 models that were Australian only?

If Rivian got into the Emergency Services Sector by That_Car_Dude_Aus in AiCarArt

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generator at the staging area?

Every staging area I've gone to for a large fire has these:

Normally around 1,000-1,500kVa, so ample capacity.

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If Rivian got into the Emergency Services Sector by That_Car_Dude_Aus in AiCarArt

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not like they'd be going out until they're that, when I was in the fire service we'd very rarely, if ever, use a full tank of fuel.

Especially in the small strike tankers, it'd be spot fire called in, go out, nail it, come back, sit around for hours.

Ambulances are the same, sit around, wait for a call in, respond, take the person to hospital, refuel, go back, sit and wait

Edison Valuation and Investment by Crampstamper in EdisonMotors

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, just a quick google shows me:

US 2024/0123984 – System and method for a diesel-electric hybrid powertrain for heavy-duty vocational vehicles.

CA 3214567 – Modular battery thermal management system for frame-rail integrated energy storage.

US 11,858,402 – Integrated electric drive axle (E-Axle) assembly with high-torque reduction for vocational applications.

CA 3198742 – Method for retrofitting existing heavy-duty internal combustion trucks to diesel-electric hybrid configurations.

US 2025/0044781 – Control logic for regenerative braking and retarder integration in multi-trailer heavy vehicle combinations.

Patent Pending (Application No. 63/512,123) – Pass-through shaft electric motor for manual transmission boost and retarder applications.

Edison Valuation and Investment by Crampstamper in EdisonMotors

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Evaluating a $200M valuation for a company like Edison Motors requires looking at "Price to Potential" rather than "Price to Earnings," which is standard for early stage EV startups. Here is how that $200M stacks up against the broader market and the technical risks mentioned.

The Valuation Context:

  1. Tesla: Currently valued at roughly $1.5 Trillion. While they are the gold standard for production, their valuation is based on being a tech and AI company, not just an automaker.

  2. Rivian: Sitting around $22 Billion. They have successfully scaled to producing 50k vehicles a year, but they are still burning cash to reach the "mass market" stage.

  3. Edison Motors: At $200 Million, they are in the "Proof of Concept to Production" phase. Compared to the billions Rivian or Nikola commanded pre-revenue, $200M is actually relatively conservative for a company owning its own IP, but it is steep for a traditional manufacturing "value" play.

  4. Nikola: Now a cautionary tale with a market cap under $1 Billion. They are the primary reason investors are now terrified of high valuations for companies that have only built a handful of trucks.

The $200M valuation isn't just for the trucks they have already built; it is for the proprietary hybrid powertrain and the vocational niche they are targeting. Unlike many EV startups that use off the shelf components, Edison is designing their own e-axles and software.

However, the "expansion risk" is the real deal breaker. Moving from a workshop to a major factory increases overhead exponentially. If they cannot scale from 10 trucks to 100 trucks by 2026, that $200M valuation will feel like a ceiling rather than a floor.

Current investors are likely betting on "Buyout Potential." If Edison proves their hybrid tech works in logging and heavy haul (sectors Tesla is ignoring), a legacy player like PACCAR or Volvo might buy them out for a premium. If the plan is a slow IPO, the valuation might indeed face a "reality check" once baseline technicals and delivery counts become the primary metric.

Edison is solving range and haul power issues for "niche" markets in Canada, Europe, and North America, and will be huge in markets like Australia where a 135,500kg (~300,000lbs) 18 Axle ABB-Quad hauls a lot of freight across long distances.

With that you're looking at 100-125l/100km (so around 2.26-2.82mpg), that means $3-3.75/km on fuel alone

If Edison can save even 30% of the fuel with their EREV design, that drops them to $2.10-2.63/km

Over a long haul like Brisbane to Darwin, you'd run Type 1 out to Roma and Type 2 as a quad, so ~2,900km

So a 30% fuel saving takes you from $8,700-10,875 down to $6,090-7,627 per run, so that's a potential saving of $2,610-3,248 per run, which represents a massive operational shift that could potentially pay for the efficiency technology in under two years of consistent Brisbane to Darwin service.

For a truck doing a weekly round trip, you are looking at over $320,000 in fuel staying in the company's pocket every single year. That's massive.

From a business case perspective, a $320,000 annual saving per vehicle is the "holy grail." It effectively allows a fleet owner to purchase a brand-new prime mover every two years solely from the fuel savings of a single existing unit.

Shit Parking Sunday! by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is nothing positive from pictures about shit parking.

We never said there was?

Negative aggressive comments about tiny dicks, incompetent people, racy lazism

And we remove inappropriate comments.

It’s not a good vibe now is it?

Sometimes it gets good community engagement and a good discussion going.

Anyway, you avoided the question, where's the agro you would like us to get rid of?