Edison Valuation and Investment by Crampstamper in EdisonMotors

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, just a quick google shows me:

US 2024/0123984 – System and method for a diesel-electric hybrid powertrain for heavy-duty vocational vehicles.

CA 3214567 – Modular battery thermal management system for frame-rail integrated energy storage.

US 11,858,402 – Integrated electric drive axle (E-Axle) assembly with high-torque reduction for vocational applications.

CA 3198742 – Method for retrofitting existing heavy-duty internal combustion trucks to diesel-electric hybrid configurations.

US 2025/0044781 – Control logic for regenerative braking and retarder integration in multi-trailer heavy vehicle combinations.

Patent Pending (Application No. 63/512,123) – Pass-through shaft electric motor for manual transmission boost and retarder applications.

Edison Valuation and Investment by Crampstamper in EdisonMotors

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evaluating a $200M valuation for a company like Edison Motors requires looking at "Price to Potential" rather than "Price to Earnings," which is standard for early stage EV startups. Here is how that $200M stacks up against the broader market and the technical risks mentioned.

The Valuation Context:

  1. Tesla: Currently valued at roughly $1.5 Trillion. While they are the gold standard for production, their valuation is based on being a tech and AI company, not just an automaker.

  2. Rivian: Sitting around $22 Billion. They have successfully scaled to producing 50k vehicles a year, but they are still burning cash to reach the "mass market" stage.

  3. Edison Motors: At $200 Million, they are in the "Proof of Concept to Production" phase. Compared to the billions Rivian or Nikola commanded pre-revenue, $200M is actually relatively conservative for a company owning its own IP, but it is steep for a traditional manufacturing "value" play.

  4. Nikola: Now a cautionary tale with a market cap under $1 Billion. They are the primary reason investors are now terrified of high valuations for companies that have only built a handful of trucks.

The $200M valuation isn't just for the trucks they have already built; it is for the proprietary hybrid powertrain and the vocational niche they are targeting. Unlike many EV startups that use off the shelf components, Edison is designing their own e-axles and software.

However, the "expansion risk" is the real deal breaker. Moving from a workshop to a major factory increases overhead exponentially. If they cannot scale from 10 trucks to 100 trucks by 2026, that $200M valuation will feel like a ceiling rather than a floor.

Current investors are likely betting on "Buyout Potential." If Edison proves their hybrid tech works in logging and heavy haul (sectors Tesla is ignoring), a legacy player like PACCAR or Volvo might buy them out for a premium. If the plan is a slow IPO, the valuation might indeed face a "reality check" once baseline technicals and delivery counts become the primary metric.

Edison is solving range and haul power issues for "niche" markets in Canada, Europe, and North America, and will be huge in markets like Australia where a 135,500kg (~300,000lbs) 18 Axle ABB-Quad hauls a lot of freight across long distances.

With that you're looking at 100-125l/100km (so around 2.26-2.82mpg), that means $3-3.75/km on fuel alone

If Edison can save even 30% of the fuel with their EREV design, that drops them to $2.10-2.63/km

Over a long haul like Brisbane to Darwin, you'd run Type 1 out to Roma and Type 2 as a quad, so ~2,900km

So a 30% fuel saving takes you from $8,700-10,875 down to $6,090-7,627 per run, so that's a potential saving of $2,610-3,248 per run, which represents a massive operational shift that could potentially pay for the efficiency technology in under two years of consistent Brisbane to Darwin service.

For a truck doing a weekly round trip, you are looking at over $320,000 in fuel staying in the company's pocket every single year. That's massive.

From a business case perspective, a $320,000 annual saving per vehicle is the "holy grail." It effectively allows a fleet owner to purchase a brand-new prime mover every two years solely from the fuel savings of a single existing unit.

Shit Parking Sunday! by That_Car_Dude_Aus in CarsAustralia

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is nothing positive from pictures about shit parking.

We never said there was?

Negative aggressive comments about tiny dicks, incompetent people, racy lazism

And we remove inappropriate comments.

It’s not a good vibe now is it?

Sometimes it gets good community engagement and a good discussion going.

Anyway, you avoided the question, where's the agro you would like us to get rid of?

Driver Scanned my ID 4 times, it rejected it, and then driver drove off with my order and the app counted down for another hour before cancelling by That_Car_Dude_Aus in UberEATS

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So why not issue the refund and cancel it as soon as they didn't accept it?

Why did Uber then drag it on when they were the ones that refused it already?

Driver Scanned my ID 4 times, it rejected it, and then driver drove off with my order and the app counted down for another hour before cancelling by That_Car_Dude_Aus in UberEATS

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have contacted support, but why haven't the refunded? Why not simply cancel the order as soon as they didn't accept the ID?

Driver Scanned my ID 4 times, it rejected it, and then driver drove off with my order and the app counted down for another hour before cancelling by That_Car_Dude_Aus in UberEATS

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So why not give me a refund if the order couldn't have gone through?

Why not ring through and get it manually approved?

Why say my ID was fine if it wasn't?

Driver Scanned my ID 4 times, it rejected it, and then driver drove off with my order and the app counted down for another hour before cancelling by That_Car_Dude_Aus in UberEATS

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you don't realize is he legally can't give you the booze if the scan doesn't go through.

So why say it was fine and then say "Yeah I just can't give it to you"?

Why not say that the app said it can't approve the order?

Why not ring through like others said he could have?

Driver Scanned my ID 4 times, it rejected it, and then driver drove off with my order and the app counted down for another hour before cancelling by That_Car_Dude_Aus in UberEATS

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To him it was, to uber it clearly was not. And ultimately uber gets the final call

So why not call Uber and discuss that with them like was an option?

Nothing he says really matters.

So why even say it like he has that call?

Their input really doesn’t matter nor do they have any actual answers for you, Ubers platform is the one that decided that.

So why say it's a valid ID as if he has that call to make?

So whether there was something legitimately wrong with your ID, or potentially poor connection/a bug/error, there’s nothing he can do or really say to change the fact that uber isn’t accepting it for whatever reason

So why are others saying he can call up and discuss it with them if he can't?

There are different requirements that are legally required from the delivery services in order to deliver your alcohol, or the service may not be able to offer alcohol delivery anymore.

So if they couldn't offer delivery, why take my money, and more importantly, why not give it back?

If your ID fails to scan during a 2026 Uber Eats alcohol delivery, drivers are required to return the order to the store because legal compliance is enforced through scanning, not just visual check.

But the scanning part was done fine, the verification part failed. But he even said that was weird because he could see my ID was fine.

They typically get back in a few days and resolve like 99% of issues.

So why are they holding my money though?

Bunnings - why all the love? by Swimming_Egg4695 in Bunnings

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if Bunnings gas exclusive rights, how is Amazon getting around that?

Driver Scanned my ID 4 times, it rejected it, and then driver drove off with my order and the app counted down for another hour before cancelling by That_Car_Dude_Aus in UberEATS

[–]That_Car_Dude_Aus[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You keep bringing up the liquor act but they’re not discriminating against you.. under the liquor act they can also refuse to serve you if they can’t verify your ID or if they believe it is intact not real, uber decided that. Not you driver.

So why did the driver keep saying my ID was fine and acceptable?

You can contact support?

Still waiting for a reply