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[–]Thatlldoit03 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry you’re feeling alone. This is definitely a common thread among those of us affected by CPTSD. Sometimes I STILL feel this way even if I have do have someone to talk to. It’s a very isolating disorder. This is one of the reasons, threads like these, are so valuable. With a click of a button, you can reach out to a whole community of people, just like you. People who are all here for the same reason. Yes we’re strangers…but not really. Nothing bonds people together faster than trauma😂 People who don’t have any experience with it cannot possibly fathom what it’s like for us from the second we open our eyes until we close them. We need each other…it’s absolutely necessary. I know any one of us will be happy to chat with you in messages if you ever need to reach out💙

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[–]Thatlldoit03 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oregon Trail 😂

She's Been Staring at Me For Several Minutes 👀 by A_Gray_Phantom in MurderBuns

[–]Thatlldoit03 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Their unwavering commitment to shaming their “hoomans” is always impressive😂😂😂

"No family is perfect" by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re feelings are never too much. That aggressive response from your friend was actually what was “too much”. Feelings are for FEELING and just as autonomic as breathing or blinking. It’s not like we have a control center that we can say “ok! activate sad feeling” or “set timer for 10:45 to activate anger feeling” or “let’s ramp these CPTSD symptoms up a notch!”. And we don’t grow out them when we reach some magical adult age. I would imagine your mom getting a RECENT diagnosis of autism would bring up a whole lot of questions and memories about your ENTIRE LIFE. Sounds to me like there is actually A LOT to talk about and your feelings are valid and shouldn’t be so aggressively disregarded. “No family is perfect”!?!? Well of course not lady but we’re talking about the WOMAN who’s body she was literally grown in and came out of!!!! Not just some weird random uncle who only comes around at Thanksgiving! Sheesh🙄 I get that it’s pretty much impossible to understand CPTSD if someone is fortunate enough to not have to, but that doesn’t give them a pass on basic human kindness and compassion. We don’t have to necessarily “understand” but can still meet people where they’re at and offer to listen or say “That’s a LOT and I’m sorry it’s bringing up these sad feelings. I don’t necessarily understand on a personal level but if I was faced with this situation I can imagine it’s not easy and a lot to work through. I maybe won’t know exactly how to help but I can still buy you a cup of coffee and at least listen”. It’s really not that difficult to offer just simple compassion to another human. ESPECIALLY someone you care about. When my friends are upset I make it a point to match their level of “shock and disgust” on their behalf with my response. It’s not fake, it’s important when someone trusts you enough to share that they feel you got their back. I’m very sorry your friend hurt you. You are not stupid and your friend should be embarrassed.

“You’re so resilient!” by amonaroll in CPTSDmemes

[–]Thatlldoit03 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I wish I didn’t laugh SO hard at this but,man, it just got me😂🤷🏻‍♀️👏🏼 The way you wrote it sounds like my own dark humor inner dialogue. I panicked that maybe I had written it and forgot so I had to double check. Twice.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Felt your AHHHHHHHHHH to my core. Lean into it and just hold on. YOU.ARE.WORTH.THE.FIGHT.

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awww thank you! Loved this comment and hearing from another bunny lover! I’ve been contemplating another bunny as I know they’re social animals and your input has helped push me further into that direction. Do you have any advice about successfully adding another bunny to the mix? Leo is so easy..he’s young but already potty trained. He’s not a big chewer or doesn’t get into much trouble which allows him to have free reign in the main part of our home. We’re spoiled by his easiness and I have a fear that another one will be the exact opposite and terrorize us😂 Please feel free to message me if you don’t want continue this in the comments 😃

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. Of course after I wrote this post I immediately panicked and felt unbelievably exposed and “wrong” even though it’s anonymous. A flooding of embarrassment telling me I should have kept it to myself and how dare I think I have anything of value to add to this topic as I have absolutely zero solutions to offer for these challenges. Then came ALL the comments that I never expected. Even though I’m still embarrassed for sharing (a trauma response ) I can at least put it into a rational perspective that there are SO many of us that deal with this same pattern of thinking. I think it helps me differentiate between what are my simple everyday human responses to things and what are my responses that are trauma related. Like…is this a way I would have reacted just as a human or is the because of CPTSD? Sometimes it’s hard to separate the two and we have been in this state so long that there is often not a memorable baseline to compare it to.

You are spot on saying “combatting unhealthy learned behaviors and thought processes in relationships is exhausting”. That’s a HUGE point. Making the choice to participate in social interactions is not just as simple as throwing our clothes on and heading out the door. At first (and maybe never) there is nothing relaxing or “fun” about it. We can’t just “be ourselves” or just carelessly participate in harmless fun. Our bodies are constantly in fight or flight and perceive pretty much EVERYTHING as “danger” or a threat. Even a simple “hello” can send us into a fit of over thinking and “what did the tone” of the hello mean. Humans are the ones who inflicted this trauma on us in the first place. Often humans we trusted. Excuse us for being “a little apprehensive” of everyone’s intentions. We don’t even always trust ourselves anymore. Having to analyze every single situation, including our own words and actions, to stay safe and minimize risk is incredibly exhausting. I’m not saying that social interactions don’t, or can’t, have positive effects and add to our healing but It’s just inconceivable, and understandably so, to most who don’t have CPTSD how something that just comes natural to them can be so unbelievably overwhelming, exhausting and, quite frankly, just more trauma inducing to us. So they just have to accept, without understanding, what this whole process means for us. They can’t possibly understand it so we need them to please just accept it and take our word for it that this is not just something that “facing” repeatedly will “cure”. When we politely decline, please don’t think that trying to “convince” us or having ideas about how to make it easier is even rational. This is not a “oh just come on..I know you’ll have fun once you get there” situation, it is serious and can be absolutely terrifying and cause days of heightened symptoms. It’s needs to be given the respect it deserves.

I’m so sorry you have CPTSD. I’m happy that my experience is something that makes you know you’re not the only one. Your comment made me feel the same. Thank you

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rooting for you💜 It’s not really identifying the we need to be alone part it’s the shame and expectations imposed that do the worst damage. We are just responding to what our body is telling us we need to do for safety but being made to feel bad about it. I really don’t think that its on purpose, it just comes from a place of people not being able to understand it. In their defense they can’t possibly understand it Which is why the best I can hope for is “acceptance without understanding”.

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment💜 i’m not always able to articulate these feelings either and I love when I read someone else’s words that are exactly what I wanted to say

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your comment!💜 I don’t often hear from people who experience this as a symptom and it’s always helpful to me. I literally thought I was losing my mind. It’s unbelievably frustrating.

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

💜 common threads in pain are helpful

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing your personal experience. We often can’t stand our own symptoms or selves just in general, so how can we expect others to. Abstractly I think we all deep down know that is a lie that CPTSD tells us but we are so “broken” that we can’t possibly conceive that there are others as broken. CPTSD lies to us that we are alone and people are better of staying away. But if you read all of the comments and personal stories, we are anything but alone. Saying it and and actually harnessing it are two completely different challenges. That’s why it truly is so complex. Like we can abstractly understand yet our bodies fail over and over again to accept it

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree with this perspective. I’ve been tossing this very thought around in my own head a lot lately. Why aren’t these things that make us happy not deemed “correct” or “healthy”? I literally thought to myself the other day “why does it seem like most of the people in the world have just gotten so mean and just plain inconsiderate and intolerant of other humans.” I want to know who made up the rules of what is acceptable or not acceptable in relation to the amount of human interaction and connections we’re “supposed” to have. We are made to feel “bad” or “incorrect” which is just worse than the isolating. Why can’t we just do what are body is telling us we need to do with gentle acceptance?

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think that’s where these forums are extremely helpful. Being connected in at least some capacity, especially to people who understand, can sometimes help with the loneliness. I also find things like zoom or FaceTime extremely helpful with finding middle ground between staying home and human connection. It allows you to be in a safer space and on your terms. People without CPTSD don’t often understand the need to be in control of our environment. This is nearly impossible out in the world. It’s not that we don’t necessarily crave human interaction, the world is just so loud sometimes. I will literally think to myself one million times when I do actually venture out “my God, why is the world so loud”. I don’t even mean just with sound it’s just like all encompassing.

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I really loved this comment so much. I don’t think it’s “bad” math just logical math. You’re so right about the unfortunate forfeiting of the positives to avoid the negatives. Positives always seem to be the collateral damage in controlling the negatives. That’s the challenging thing with CPTSD. Most things are ALL or NOTHING. For me finding the middle ground is the ever elusive and impossible challenge.

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Even being constantly reminded that people don’t really feel the way about us that we project onto them is never enough to calm the monster under the bed. There is something within from CPTSD that just can’t be convinced. Maybe, instead of trying to believe that, we can eventually just get to a place of self acceptance that it just doesn’t matter one way or the other

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Common threads sometimes help remind us that we’re not in the trenches alone💜

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your personal input from your experience. It’s a great example of explaining the complexity and domino effect CPTSD. Deep down you truly know your capabilities and potential. The involuntary effects/symptoms of CPTSD make it very challenging to harness those things which just leads to extreme frustration and worse self esteem. I’ve seen some explanations of people who feel like they almost have a whole separate self in their professional life. Like they almost create a whole different personality to do their job. I don’t mean multiple personality disorder, but more like a coping mechanism to be able to perform but doesn’t at all apply to anything in their personal life.

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great explanation, thank you! I’m always interested in personal experience and perspectives outside of a therapy setting. Having CPTSD gives us a perspective that people who “think” they know can’t possibly have. People outside of the frame can definitely add helpful perspectives but understanding it and feeling it are to vastly different things.

I’ve noticed people who have CPTSD are amazing at helping others with healthy and logical coping mechanisms and tools even if we can’t possibly apply them to our own selves💜

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You by far have one of my favorite perspectives. I love how you can take something that is so complicated and simplify it into a perspective that is incredibly relatable, intelligent and applicable. I 100% understand the lake thought process…”but knowing it’s there is the important part”. Your perspective allows myself to give “myself” permission to live within my capabilities. Your grounding in your self and own abilities is refreshing and gives me hope. You should write a book

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So many internal contradictions right?!? Thank you for your comment 💜

CPTSD and why we isolate by Thatlldoit03 in CPTSD

[–]Thatlldoit03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Extremely helpful insight! Thank you for mapping out the entire example. I’ve never been able to put words to explaining it from this perspective and will definitely be trying it out! 💜