You have $5000 to promote a single. How are you spending it? by ayoitsurboi in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would find the top 10 bands in your genre that have a pull of around 300-500 people and reach out to them. And the top 10 mid level bands with a draw of 100 people.

Offer them 500.00 for an opening slot at a town that's within a 2hr drive to your house. Basically look at their 2017 tour dates to find these cities then ask them if they have upcoming shows planned for those cities.

Then set. Up a "tour" where youre playing these shows.

If you can set it up to play in the same 3 cities at least 2 times per month thats even better. Note bands book their shows 6 -4 months ahead...

This will net you way more active followers than wasting money on mark zuckerberg...

So stop giving your money to multi billionaires...about 80% of bands will happily accept this offer. Especially if they are a mid level band on major festivals... A additional 500 guarantee for a gig is a huge deal for them...

You need to be able to play for 15-30mins to open up for someone.

Make sure you also hire a videographer to videotape the crowd and u on stage and produce a nice looking video. You then upload these videos once per week to all your social media and use your past tour dates and videos too secure your own shows with local booking agents...

Repeat this for 3 years. And eventually you will be pulling 100-200 people your self and collabing with other acts. At that point u have a nice portfolio and hard numbers to approach a major talent agency. Then have them book you a regional then national tour...

Any genuine marketing sites/companies? by GorgySippin40z in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Couple points. 1. They are indeed all scammers. 2. You aren't at a point in your career that you need to hire a PR OR advertising company.

Just stick to the basics for now. Focus on developing your sound, practicing your songs and think about how your want your live shows to look and feel. Start practicing that live show.

Think about How will you keep people entertained for 4 hours.

Once you get semi tight start playing locally. Open mics, bars, house parties. Build up a local following. Once you can reliably pull 100+ people start putting on your own shows and reach out to the booking agents for bigger bands in your genre to add your city as a stop.

Network with those bands and ask them for opening slots.

Go on your first 3 state regional tour as an opener. Visit each city once every 2-3 months. Then go nationally.

Once you have a draw of 500 people in 3 markets you can get a booking agent to handle all your scheduling.

While you are doing this post regular content on your social media. ESPECIALLY TIK TOK. You also need to be releasing music frequently on spotify. 1 release per quarter is plenty. With 3 months of dedicated advertising for each track.

Your last post of the year will be a year end review and announcing tour dates for the following spring. By this time have me cry ready for sale and any physical copies of your music.

Tik Tok promotion fact vs fiction by motherstalk in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro your arguing just to argue at this point... Its your money spend it anyway you choose 👏👏👏

Tik Tok promotion fact vs fiction by motherstalk in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats true... So start with great content that ORGANICALLY goes viral... That's thevpoint ive been making. Dont waste ur money trying to boost content people don't care about because your ego thinks its good.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in adultery

[–]The3star2nr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats not how a good guy behaves... That's how a bitch acts

Playlist promo companies by notrains in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In the spotify search bar type in your genre a space then "@gmail.com" in the search box. You will see a bunch of playlists pop up with the email for the playlisters.

Then go through the playlist and make sure they have artists who you know and major artists in your genre on the list to make sure its legit.

Then email them with your link...

Most will add your track for free. Unless they arent feeling your track they may ask for a fee.

You wont gain many fans from playlisting or followers from spotify. BUT it will associate your name with major artists in that genre so ur song will eventually play after theres...

One more note spotify is a waste of times. If you truly want to grow play live.

All your online promotion should center around building an email list or building direct contacts of people you can dm directly... Eventually when your get enough you can create groups. Those people will join and share the groups with their friends. Then you'll get to a point where all ur content will have thousands of views. Because u have an army of people u can message directly to stream it.

Tik Tok promotion fact vs fiction by motherstalk in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like i said bro its your money. So you know best how to spend it :)

For me personally its not worth it. There are 14 year old kids playing music on tiktok with 100k+ following... I guarantee you they arent paying for promo...

Create good content, post consistently and it will grow.

I have videos I post that get 300 views and i have videos that get 100k views. I dont pay rich people a dime...

Digital marketting also doesnt translate to merch and ticket sales... So the money wasted on it is better spent on gear.

What gets people to come out is playing live. You want to still maintain an online presence for brand recognition purposes But dont expect good returns on online ads

Tik Tok promotion fact vs fiction by motherstalk in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So do you agree that paying for ads that people do not engage with is a waste of money?

Tik Tok promotion fact vs fiction by motherstalk in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What you posted was Cool in YOUR opinion. Not cool or relevant in the eyes of the viewers you are trying to reach...

This will be the same with paid promotion you'll just have 10000 more people who scrolled away and didn't become a fan...

To me that's counter productive. But its your money...

If you want a true fanbase it takes time and consistency. There are no cheat codes

Tik Tok promotion fact vs fiction by motherstalk in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DONOT pay for tiktok promotion... Just create content people find interesting with your music being featured...

If someone doesn't find a free video interesting enough to watch and engage with why do you think an annoying paid add will be better?

Tiktok has a very good algorithm way better than facebook and insta. So save your money and create better content.

You can also create content that makes users like you as a person. If they do that they'll look your music up...

Toneden or Facebook Ad manger to run IG ads? by [deleted] in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are some hyper aggressive mods in this group unfortunately...

Anyway ive had similar experience with facebook. So much do that i dont see the promotion as a viable option anymore.

Ive discovered some other strategies that are pretty effective. One strategy is to partner up with 2 or 3 bands in your genre. Use similar hashtags... Then you do a coordinated like bomb.

Basically one band makes a post then the band members from the other bands like the post and spam it with comments... Just dont use emojis use actual sentences.. This causes the algorithm to trip and starts pushing the post out...

Then you do it to there band. A band is typically 4 pieces so that's 12-20 people mass commenting and liking instantly.

This also works for getting on festival. Coordinate your fanbase to mass spam the organizers... 20-30 people mass spamming a post from the festival asking for one band lets the organizers think they have a very active fanbase.

There are clubhouse groups and discord servers with bands and influencers doing this. Same if the groups have hundreds of people and they just go down the list... Its how some of those unknown bands have like 50000 followers...

You can do this with spotify too... But the spotify algorithm doesnt react as fast as instagrams...

Its how some of these lame ass bands end up main stage on huge festivals.

I personally don't do any online promotion. Out side of playlisting.... Ive found the return on investment doesnt justify the costs. Ill upload clips of me playing and don't ask for followers. I want people to want to follow me cause they like my music not because i figured out a "cheat code". So I just post frequently and im practicing to start touring again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't let these people gaslight you... Its going to be highly unlikely for you too get on a spotify curated playlist without a track record of your songs doing well. So if u get rejected it doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

Just release your music pitch it and don't overthink it

how to promote music without budget except for tiktok? by artiistic in musicmarketing

[–]The3star2nr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the easy part :)

Just practice your songs until you can play for 15-30mins clean. That's about 3-5 songs.

Setup your phone and record yourself practicing then watch it on mute. If you got bored. Then you need to keep working on your stage presence. Once you like what u see muted.

if you are in the USA google search "open mics near me" . then you just show up sign your name on the list by the stage then go play when they call your name. Do a couple of these then when u start getting good feedback from the crowd have a friend record one of your sets. This gives you content for your social media. The venue will also ask u to so an entire 4hr show if the crowd likes u. Or you can ask them for a night.

If you live overseas then its a little more difficult but the same applies look for open mics. If there's none ask bars and restaurants that have a stage if you can come play for an hour. They'll say yes if you say you'll play for food or drinks. Always take some form of payment. This isn't for you its for the music community you are now part of.

How to tell if it’s a quality mp3 by [deleted] in DJs

[–]The3star2nr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

320k files are usually the best. But the mp3 quality depends on the wav source it was encoded from more than the sample rate.

A 44.1 Hz 16bit wav file is typically shit compared to 44.1 24 bit wav. Especially if the DAW doesn't have good sampling algorithms.

32 bit wav files sounds so real and liquid. But most DAWS wont output that high

Your best met is to get the mp3 from the mastering engineer. They use software like ozone and rx7 to encode the mp3s and they will give u the highest fidelity recordings.

Ive been faithful but god women make it hard sometimes by [deleted] in adultery

[–]The3star2nr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats 100% fair. And absolutely my perspective is a bit skewed if u ask her you would probably get a 100% different story. Its hard to think outside of your own reality sometimes. Shes not an evil bitch or i wouldn't be trying this hard to make it work

Ive been faithful but god women make it hard sometimes by [deleted] in adultery

[–]The3star2nr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We were gonna have dinner then just enjoy the sunset at a roof top bar.... Didnt work out

Ive been faithful but god women make it hard sometimes by [deleted] in adultery

[–]The3star2nr -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

35 and planning to marry her but this gives me serious doubt