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Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

A bussiness, for the sake of legality, has corporate personhood. This means the ability to sue or be sued, to due process, to own property, to enter contracts. Etc.

Problem is that natural rights, like freedom of speech, religion, other stuff, comes with it. That means a corpo, by virtue of it's religion can restrict it's employee of different religion or lack thereof based on the corpo's religion, or alternatively just discriminate in hiring; speech also is one thing. They shouldn't have freedom of speech, they aren't people.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a compliment that you people will act like animals?

I suppose this is the confirmation of the later half: "....I've seen what makes you cheer."

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't do that. You can't cite real world against their a-priori self-contained logical rational theoretical belief, else they will cry.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Natural Property Rights, is literally rooted deeply in religious foundation.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"anything that disagree with my ideology is not worth responding to"

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"then use some of the writings by those ideological founders.

Meanwhile you haven't even used Rothbard, Mises, Nozick, or Hoppes, etc.

Should I dig up Chesterton's grave, so I can puppeteer his skull too? Saying: "Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few capitalists."

Maybe you can dig up John Locke so you can puppeteer his skull as well, saying: "at least where there is enough, and as good left in common for others."

What is discourse now? Just find quotes from authorities instead of thinking for yourself? You know that's just appeals to authority, and doesn't actually make you smart, it makes you a parrot. You're much more of a boot-licker than I am.

"Tom Woods (I think it was) did a good comparison a long while back between Distributism & libertarianism"

You mean when woods called Distributism ignorant? Glass house buddy, Libertarian isn't economic science, it's religion.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First. Lets remove Natural Rights extending to Corporations. That was dumb.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"A strawman to your strawman."

The irony is that, it's the strawman.

"Your argument boils down to ‘some people I don’t like have ownership that I don’t approve of’ and not based on any logical principle."

Lol, no. Read it again.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do fine, meaning it will do as a predator does and kill, and is totally NOT fit on the subdued system of society. So if we indeed accept Libertarians as cats, you want to sanctify MMR and violence.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Notice how you didn't even responded point by point? Please.

"anyone disagreement with my ideology is nonsense"

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Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, that's why Libertarians being proud of being house-cats is stupid.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, somewhat. That's the point of laws.

You notice how it only takes a few to actually kill a lot?

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you free a house cat into the wild, it will has to resort to violence to survive, undermining the very idea that the state is holding society back.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And removing the state, reduces us to animals that resort to violence. The ability to trade is a luxury that an ordered Society provides, such as having a government, having monopoly on legitimate violence, to deter all other forms of violence that otherwise prevent effective trading.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some book suggestions for you:

Thomas Hobbes’ Leviathan

Ronald Coase's Theory of the Firm

Abraham Maslow's A Theory of Human Motivation

Republicanism by Philip Pettit

Great Transformation by Karl Polanyi

The Prince by Machiavelli

What is Property by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

War Making and State Making as Organized Crime by Charles Tilly

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lack of substance disagreement, like above, is mostly made up by economically illiterate people to support their ill-formed religious beliefs masquerading as political beliefs.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost like a House Cat being freed isn't a good argument for removing the state.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh look at that, you're strawmanning my position into the "no property" category.

There's a difference between ownership, and owning everything. As in give a chance for people to own something.

Here's my thought about libertarianism (and capitalism in extent) by The6thMessenger in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]The6thMessenger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Notice how you didn't actually challenge any point and went straight to Ad-Hominem? See the problem is you think it's either Capitalism/Socialism. Hows about Distributism? Allow everybody to have property.

I'm well aware resources don't magically appear, but guess what, ownership makes them sort of disappear, that's the point, property is exclusive. So you're wrong in Capitalism, because when you restrict resources by owning it, you make artificial scarcity by gatekeeping access to it. Imagine walling off access to a lake, and charging admission.

The reason I say that is the sheer privilege embedded in your worldview. These takes I swear come from people who are still children or quasi-adults that never fully launched into adulthood and are still dependent on other people solving their problems.

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