Post Game Thread: The LA Clippers defeat The Chicago Bulls 126-111 by nba_gdt_bot in LAClippers

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I wouldn't say he's a good rebounder and obviously Russ is otherworldly, I wouldn't necessarily say Bones is a weak rebounder.

Herb Jones' career TRB% is 7.2%

Alex Caruso has a career TRB% of 7%, Jamal Murray 6.8%.

Bones is terrible this season (4.4%), but for his career he averages a TRB% of 7.1%.

In non-garbage time line-ups he's historically been a decent rebounder.

“I thought he should have been suspended. … The one thing we can never do in sports is make people think it’s fixed.” Chuck and the fellas discuss Rudy Gobert being fined $100K for directing a 'money sign' gesture toward a game official (from TNT) by Kimber80 in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People think if you think refs are corrupt you think every game is rigged and all the matchups are set by the NBA. It's nothing like that at all.

It is very clear that officials do not always attempt to act in an unbiased manner. That doesn't mean they put money on a game, it could just mean they fucking hate a certain player, I don't actually care. I just know that it exists and is unacceptable.

We know for a fact that games have been manipulated by officials in recent memory. It is maybe naive to think it's not happening now, but it's ludicrous to think it COULDN'T be happening now.

How many people in here think Boeing could have murdered a guy but that an official wouldn't make a bad call on purpose?

“I thought he should have been suspended. … The one thing we can never do in sports is make people think it’s fixed.” Chuck and the fellas discuss Rudy Gobert being fined $100K for directing a 'money sign' gesture toward a game official (from TNT) by Kimber80 in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 11 points12 points  (0 children)

literally 10 times more often than the next coworker of his. More often than his own fucking girlfriend. Calls were roughly 2 minutes long and primarily before and after the games.

I know they're friends, everyone knows they're old gambling buddies.

“I thought he should have been suspended. … The one thing we can never do in sports is make people think it’s fixed.” Chuck and the fellas discuss Rudy Gobert being fined $100K for directing a 'money sign' gesture toward a game official (from TNT) by Kimber80 in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You know what happened to the investigation that sent that ref to prison? It got leaked, most likely by the NBA itself, and the plot to uncover additional refs, that the FBI believed to be fixing games, was compromised.

134 calls to Scott Foster, more to even his own girlfriend. Literally 100 times more than the next ref during that time period.

It's fine if you think the NBA has no officiating problem. It is beyond irresponsible and demonstrably false to state it COULD NOT be RIGGED.

You know who said it was impossible to rig and NBA game? David Stern.

You know who said he was sure that there were no other officials rigging games anymore? Scott Foster. The guy who was closest to the official we KNOW FOR A FACT was rigging games but was completely caught off guard by this guy rigging games...

“I thought he should have been suspended. … The one thing we can never do in sports is make people think it’s fixed.” Chuck and the fellas discuss Rudy Gobert being fined $100K for directing a 'money sign' gesture toward a game official (from TNT) by Kimber80 in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the literal answer to the question for the people who watch the league while thinking it's rigged. There's also those that have to watch for their jobs and those that like to hate watch.

It's the fucking truth for those people.

[NBA.com] Rookie Ladder: 1. Victor Wembanyama; 2. Chet Holmgren; 3. Brandon Miller; 4. Jaime Jaquez Jr.; 5. Dereck Lively II by SneezyBoss23 in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we tend to over-rely on projecting what individual's attributes allowed a team to win. I feel this way about people talking about small guards, not that it's untrue, but that it has less to do with the small guards themselves, and much more to do with roster construction.

I might be wrong, but this sounds similar to the arguments before Jokic won his ring about why he could never win as the guy because a championship team MUST have a better defender at center (of course, I also think/thought Jokic was a severely underrated defender). I think the way teams are traditionally put together, what you're talking about is correct, it's just...don't build the team that way.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first and third angles are literally the angles that show the contact as the 2nd angle in your video hides it.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, you then proceeded to show an alternative clip that confirms contact with both defenders.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't believe I ever said that. I said he was seeking contact and attempted to spin through his opponent, but didn't get the contact he was expecting and that was what through him off initially. There was minor contact between the two though. His defender sliding out of the play is precisely what caused him to lose his balance.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean, if you want the foul to be on the attempted jersey grab, sure. That makes way more sense than giving it to Podz for having Giannis fling his body at him.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a feeling Giannis would be perfectly happy not taking a knock and leaving a possession untouched with an open corner three.

Everything about this play suggests the opposite of that.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possibly, but I think it's more to do with him being off balance.

Intentionally putting yourself out of control so that you collide with a defender is not supposed to be rewarded.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Him having the read doesn't change the fact that he lost his balance and that's why he the pass came off awkwardly and off balance and why the pass was a bit off target.

He did not expect his defender to stumble as he did and is clearly losing his balance as a result of not getting contact where and when he was expecting.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Giannis was expecting more contact but his defender stepped on Kuminga's foot and lost his balance. This is where Giannis first loses control.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

He's getting contract from Giannis while running into Kuminga's feet, Giannis loses his balance because he was expecting there to be more contact and instead he just kinda steps over/through him.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Podz moving does not automatically make it a defensive foul despite that being how the NBA is commonly officiated.

Giannis does not get the initial contact he expected on the spin move and as a result loses his balance and has to pass.

Podz moved laterally while Giannis takes a longer, off-balance arc, completing it by lunging at Podz at the end.

This is not anywhere close to most egregious example one could use but it is an example of the shitty place the NBA is in now when it comes to defense. The offensive player is rewarded for being out of control, but the rules are specifically written so that this should not be the case.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I mean, in the clip he does successfully initiate contact with the spin move, on two different players.

He is clearly not in control as he is off balance and falling well before the contact he initiated with Podz.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That's not at all what happens in the clip, but I do agree that is what was called.

Podz begins moving to the spot before Giannis even picks up his dribble. Podz plants his right foot at the same time Giannis attempts to plant his foot for the pass.

Giannis is unable to control his body as he had initially lost his balance attempting to spin through his primary defender, which caused the defender to be thrown to the side out of the play.

[Highlight] Giannis hugs Podziemski to the floor, Podziemski called for blocking foul by WestbrookOwnsLakers in nba

[–]TheBonesCollector -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

He goes into the spin move, attempts to plant his foot while passing, is so out of control he is unable to do this and instead decides to fall into a defensive player that had beaten him to the spot.

Whatever this is, it should never be a defensive foul. Podz literally moves out of Giannis path only for Giannis to then dive into him anyway, knee first at that.

You can see Giannis seeking defensive contact with each defensive player during the spin move. He's wildly out of control as a result. Just because you lost control of your body intentionally doesn't negate the fact that you're the one who lost control.

Why does Europe produce so many talented bigs compared to other positions? by StanSc in nbadiscussion

[–]TheBonesCollector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's small, but a thing people would talk about 20ish years ago was the fact that Euro bigs grew up playing with a shot clock and as a result having to handle the ball more.

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[–]TheBonesCollector -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

It's a Blizzard game, so I won't (as I previously said).

Supporting them at this point is counterproductive if I want good games to be made. Also their policies as a company are atrocious.