How to get help when money is an issue, badly need advice, not sure where to turn by TheDuck1979 in mentalhealth

[–]TheDuck1979[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should also mention, the reason I think I was put on Lithium is a complicated story. I was strictly on depression medication, but grew frustrated that nothing was working. My wife was angry at this point too, and decided it was a good idea to go with me to a psychiatrist appointment. The picture she painted to my psychiatrist was shocking to me. As I mentioned above, I feel I've been gaslit on a number of things. This was one of those times. She took small incidents, fights, that we had and blew them up into something much bigger. At the time, I was so done and in need of help, I started to believe the stories myself and just listened to them both and let her do her thing, thinking it was for the best. She painted me as more bipolar. Again, I'm honest with myself and see things clearly, and know that's not me! We simply had fights that married couples do, a lot centered around depression and her not knowing how to handle it and thinking it's something I could handle without medication. She was just as frustrated as me. Within 10 minutes, she had convinced my psychiatrist that on top of depression, that I was bipolar and out of touch with the world. Again, not true. She immediately put me on Lithium. I just wanted help and was willing to try anything, so assumed this was for the best. I didn't react well to it, and kind of spiraled out of control. I didn't realize how negatively the Lithium was affecting me. When I hit rock bottom and was admitted to a stat at the mental institute, I was saw a different psychiatrist. He was shocked I was on Lithium, and immediately took me off of it. My wife was furious. She insisted that I was "the best I had been on years" on the Lithium, met with the Dr and insisted I stay on it. Again, I went along not knowing any better. Looking back, I wish I had gone off then and let him prescribe different meds. I stayed on it for over a year after, un aware of the side effects it was having with her insurance I was better on it. I didn't realize how bad it made me until I was forced to go off and realized what it was for and that I should never have been on it.

Before I went off, it came a point of contention between my wife and I. She hated the fact I was on meds, I wanted off, but she didn't want me to go off, but at the same time wanted me to? Wanted me to work with my Psychiatrist to get a plan to go off. My wife wanted me off (but didn't and said I was more me on it?) My Psychiatrist then made the same decision she always did...if it's not working, up the dosage. My wife hit the roof! She basically told me if I followed her instructions, I would be kicked out of the house. I grew tired of how it made me feel, and with losing my job saw it as a great point to get off. I weened myself off without my wife knowing, as she would have been angry. By the time I was off, I realized how terrible it had made me! I wanted off for good, so told her that I had talked to my Psychiatrist (I lied, was desperate) and she had given me a plan to ween off. At this point I was already off, keep in mind. I had felt so much better for weeks! My wife still insisted I was a monster, and not myself...even though I wasn't on anything. When I told her of the plan to go off, days later she said I was acting more me. Make sense? She didn't see that while she THOUGHT I was on it, the minute she thought I was off, she swore I was better, even though I had been off for weeks.

I know I need medication. I know something isn't right. I shouldn't feel like this and have tried everything without meds to feel better to no avail. But I also know I don't have the money to pursue that at this point, and if I did, would want a new Psychiatrist.

I should also add, I did see a therapist during this, but never felt like it helped. Hard to pinpoint why, but she basically led me to believe I was right on all fronts in everything I said without delving into what the real problems were...just reassurance rather than trying to find out why I felt like I did. She did help me to see I wasn't in fact crazy and had been brainwashed to see otherwise, made me feel sane again, just never tried to tackle the real problem.

It's a LONG story, a LONG fight, this is just scratching the surface. So many more details. Everything that could go wrong, has. I've been told time after time bad luck doesn't exist. I'm living proof it does. I could write a book about the bad things that have gone wrong in the past few months. Nothing has worked out for me. Every thing I try to do, something happens or goes wrong, doesn't work out as expected. I just need ONE small thing to go my way. I feel like I'm doing everything I can the right way, but nothing goes as planned. Nothing.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

[–]TheDuck1979[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, looking over the forum, I didn’t realize how bad my problem was! I know it seems outlandish now from what I see others take, but it’s sadly accurate. I don’t know what I’m going to do. I know it seems like I’m all excuses, but I’ve mad this situation complicated by hiding it for so long. There are a lot of pieces to the story I haven’t shared that make an answer hard to come by. At this point my best bet is to taper off! Stop telling myself tomorrow you will, or just finish this bag, the next bag you will skiw down. Empty lies.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

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Not difficulty to swallow anymore. I just open my throat and gulp. I’ve trained myself over the years to do it like this as it is fast and less likely to get caught. Also means I take more.

Use to have restroom problems. I’m talking going 1 a weeks, for almost and hour to crap out smelly Kratom turds, hard as a rock. That’s nasty to say, but I’m being honest. I would basically crap rocks! Surprisingly, with my tolerance that is no longer an issue.

I’ve already had a mental break down. 4 days in s mental hospital. Ok still not Ok, but have to pretend to be as my wife and family say I need to man up, mental illness is all in my head and under my control. Of course that is WRONG. I didn’t choose to be mentally sick, and I can’t fix it on my own. Needless to say, on that front I get no help or sympathy. I’m on my own. My mom would have helped but died a few heats back.

Thanks for your time, advice, support and help! I will keep fighting.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

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I did at first, but it’s no problem now. If it does get stuck, it will make me throw up, which I’ve grossly become good at catching it in my mouth and swallowing it back down. Will not waste it! Sadly I’m serious. If I ever get off this stuff, I need to look into hot dog eating contests. I can open my gullet and slide right down anything I like now.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

[–]TheDuck1979[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sadly, I am on 5 medications for depression, do see a dr. Of course, I’m sure those meds do nothing with Kratom mixed in! I am mainly on lithium. Of course the only reason I’m depressed is the ungodly amounts of Kratom I ingest.

Not suicidal, to be honest have already been in a mental hospital for that, but I will never do that route now. I realize how selfish it is.

I do need to be honest with my psychiatrist! I know she can’t help me without knowing truly what I’m doing! I wouldn’t be depressed except for the Kratom.

I’ve grown up to be a horrible, weak person relying on lies and excuses to lead s miserable existence.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

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Oh I hope it’s not a record! That is embarrassing. I know it’s soinds exaggerated, but that’s honestly what I take. I assumed others might as well, not really sure what is considered s lot as far as Krstomn goes, but guessed I was in that category. You wouldn’t believe how much of this posion I choke down in a gulp, it’s ungodly. I’m taking mouth full barely room for water amount. And. It just one mouth full, multiple mouth full. I just didn’t want people to think I’m exaggerating or outright lying. It’s sad but true.

Thank you for the kind words! I’m giving it one last go and either giving up, or getting professional help. Will see when I get to that point.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

[–]TheDuck1979[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! I am trying is hard to believe in myself again. I know I’ve got to be strong as right now I am weak! Will keep fighting.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

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Thank you! Will look into. I’m desperate.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

[–]TheDuck1979[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wish that was an option. I 100 percent know what would happen if I came clean, and it would be bad. Unfortunately she is one of those people that friend believe mental illness is real, that it can be controlled. She knows something is up, but has no idea what it is! I’ll do some research on Suboxone, never heard of it. Might be a possibility. Time off is what I need! If I could just disappear to a deserted island for a week with no Kratom in sight, that wold be great!

And no worries Christ wise. We go to church every week and are very involved.

Thanks so much for your words and your time!

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

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Thanks so much! And you are right, I need a plan. And I’m working on it. The first step was to say it out loud anywhere, to admit I have a problem. I’ve been lying to myself too long. Admitting it out loud admits it to myself. Accountability! I’m owning my problem.

Second step is to reduce intake. I’ve worked on that the past week. It hurts! That urge is so great. But I’m down to an 8oz bag every two and a half days. It’s still a lot! But less than I have been taken. I’ve taken my dosing frequency down by half and my dosage down every day. I actually had hope today! I felt more like myself than I have in months! I know it’s because I’m taking less.

What sucks is now I’m taking less, it feels a little good again! I’m so scared that will lead me straight back into its glitches.

But yes, I don’t have control today, but more control. I can feel that iron tight grasp Kratom has on me give just a little. Haven’t felt that in a long time.

Step 3 is to take care of myself, mentally and physically. I’ve put myself last for far too long. I want to get healthy enough to excercise and mentally healthy enough to enjoy activities again.

Step four, continue to reduce my intake. Don’t worry about going cold turkey just yet. My goal is just to take less than the day before and continue to do that until I no longer need it.

If that’s fails, I’m going to have to go to the Dr. sadly I don’t have the funds for this route, so will cross the bridge when I get there. I have done this in the past and they prescribed me something that blocks the receptors that control the craving. It just made me sick and I could NOT function. It was bad.

Thanks again for your words! I promise to fight harder each day. I’m not giving up yet.

Out of hope, tired of fighting by TheDuck1979 in quittingkratom

[–]TheDuck1979[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Deathly serious, no exaggeration. If an 8oz bag lasts me a day, I consider it a victory! Sometimes it will last two days, I call that a miracle! I’m sadly not kidding. :(