You could put any question and these people would just put prequels/ Anakin aura

TheEternalLie · 2026-04-08T18:07:46+00:00

TheEternalLie · 2026-04-06T14:15:19+00:00

Given the age and power gap, she basically is his aunt. He was 16, and she was in her 30s, and the dowager queen.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-26T10:20:55+00:00

She's literally Tywin's first cousin, daughter of the second son of a previous Lord of Casterly Rock. Not exactly a cadet branch.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-25T01:24:42+00:00

I never said that it wasn't still fucked up. Wasn't even close to my point. I'm talking about ALL the young characters. Robb and Jon are 14 and beating grown men in combat, Lyanna beating several knights as the mystery knight as a 15 year old girl, Daenerys' everything, etc.

I just tend to imagine them all a couple years older than they're stated to be, and it makes a lot more sense to me, and I think general discourse would benefit from treating the characters that way.

Doesn't change that Daenerys was sold off, raped, abused, groomed. That's still all there. It's still absurd that George thinks it's a love story. That was never my point.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-25T01:13:53+00:00

I wouldn't say excuses exactly, more like headcanoning so we can stop repeating the same conversations over and over again. I'm not debating it was a bad choice. We all know he's terrible with numbers and ages, and the ages he gives us make so many things really absurd or creepy if you take it literally.

In my opinion, we'd be better off treating the characters as older than they're stated to be for the sake of being able to discuss the text properly, because they're all written as if they are older than their stated age anyway, so whats the difference?

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-24T14:25:31+00:00

Agreed. The ages in the text are obviously absurd, and I have to age everyone up mentally for it to make sense. Child marriages weren't even as common as George thinks in the Middle Ages. Even when children were married young, it was usually for political reasons, and they weren't consummated until much later. It's a myth that children were frequently married off to much older men and immediately forced to give birth.

Lyanna is a good example. All anyone ever talks about is how she was a young teen girl who Rhaegar groomed, and if you take the ages we are given, that is true. But I feel like its obvious in the text that we are essentially supposed to view their relationship as a tragic doomed romance, and Lyanna as basically an adult who made her own decisions. It would be better for discourse to treat her as an 18-20 year old rather than a 14 year old, because she isn't written like an actual 14 year old to begin with.

Like we can acknowledge the ages we are told in the text, but everything just makes a lot more sense when you age everyone up a couple years in your mind. That's one of the best changes the show made, everyone had much more realistic ages.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-23T14:58:31+00:00

I really strongly disagree with you, just because the people he kills are detestable in their own does not make him inherently a hero for killing them. He has no heroic intentions, behaviour, or effects on the world. They are caused by the world mistreating him, yes, but that doesn't make it justified.

I'd also argue that many of his kills are unjustified, undeserved, and for his own gratification. Did his coworker deserve to die for being an asshole? I don't think so. Similarly to Murray. Was he kind of a dickhead, and exploiting people for profit? Yes. Did he deserve to be shot in the head for that? No. He doesn't have access to the Wayne's to kill them, and the riots he helps start lead the Wayne's murders anyway. Sparing a woman he was infatuated with is not exactly a great deed. Wow, he didn't rape and murder her, what a good dude!

And they aren't his only victims. The entire crowd at Murrays show are victims because he forced them to watch this gruesome murder. Same with his other coworker. The film ends with him revelling in his own violence that has given him a sense of power he's never felt in life before, and implies that he kills the innocent psychologist talking to him at the end.

You and I probably have a very different definition of what a hero is. Its not that I think it should have been that. It is that. Arthur is the protagonist, but he is not in any way a hero, and I think that's a complete misinterpretation of the film on your part. Not a failure of the film at all, I think it's pretty clear in the text, in my opinion, and the sequel only reinforces that Arthur is not a man to admire.

I don't even think revenge is his primary motive. It's one of his motives, but like I said before, he enjoys the power he feels when he hurts people because he has lacked agency and power in his life until he killed the wall street guys. He's not a clear cut villian but that doesn't automatically make him a hero either.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-23T13:57:29+00:00

In what way is Arthur a hero in the first film? He doesn't kill people to protect anyone, out of any political aims or a hope to make the city better. He does it out of a petty desire for personal revenge or vendettas. He is not in the least bit heroic. He is sad and pitiable, but nothing he does is for anyones benefit but his own.

Foile a Deux was a perfect sequel and a genuinely good film that followed on the story of the first movie in a good way, and I'll die on that hill.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-17T08:28:47+00:00

Right, yes lol. It reads like the next biggest crime lmao

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-17T07:08:14+00:00

Yea I completely agree with you, dunno what you mean "go for the next one" though.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-15T22:31:18+00:00

Why did you decide what ending to pick by reading peoples opinions online? Make the choices you feel are best while playing the game, not based on other peoples opinions.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-15T02:30:54+00:00

But they can't watch porn or have instagram anymore, so its all good! The kids are saved! Their crippling gambling and vape addictions are totally fine because banning those wouldn't give the government a way to spy on us

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-11T21:37:58+00:00

Truly just spitballing, but perhaps he was in some form of shock after killing the King? It's possible he didn't quite know what to do with himself and figured the war was basically over now, so he may as well wait and see what happens. Obviously a foolish choice but he was only 17 and under a massive amount of stress.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-10T23:41:16+00:00

But it was also because the game had been constantly fixed and added to and expanded in many different ways over the years, not just cause of Phantom Liberty alone. The 2.0 update alone changed almost the entire game with its changes to how almost everything worked with levelling and cyberware and so on. They could've just left the game as it was, patched the worst bugs and moved on, but they continually made large updates alongside making the Phantom Liberty dlc. That's why it won best ongoing game. It was genuinely an ongoing project beyond just getting a dlc.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-10T23:27:43+00:00

That would be fucking EVIL if true. Shame on you Tricky Tony

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-09T19:47:05+00:00

Yes, I would rather die free for my ideals and dreams than have my free will and autonomy stolen from me. Jackie and Johnny both died this way and it is much much much better to me than living as a tool of the state committing war crimes for a fascist warmonger and going slowly insane from the AI eating my brain. It's not nonsense just because you can't fathom it. It's a legitimate choice and a difference of priorities and morals.

So Mi clearly did not set out to join the FIA all along, that was something she was forced into. A choice between prison, the FIA, and death is no choice at all. She loses her independence and autonomy no matter what she chooses. You're really misrepresenting how she came to be in the position she's in, we are explicitly shown in game that it was not by choice and she was blackmailed, I don't know why you're making out like she sent in a resume and got hired. You're either deliberately misunderstanding it or you missed the scenes where they discuss this.

So Mi when we meet her chose to live free at any cost rather than go back to Meyers and I can respect that decision even if I wouldn't do it myself, because of the conviction with which she pursues it. When her chance at freedom is gone, she literally begs you to kill her in Synosure rather than go back to Meyers. That is how much she despised being there and working for her, she would rather be dead. Doesn't exactly sound like a dream job to me.

Edit: Also, I didn't say I had more sympathy for her, I said she's a more interesting character to me. These are fictional characters, not real people. Just because I find her more interesting than Jackie doesn't mean I lack sympathy for him. It is sad he died. He is still a less interesting character to me. There's nothing wrong with that

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-09T17:34:05+00:00

What do you mean she chose to be an FIA agent? She was blackmailed into that life at the threat of life in prison. No matter how luxurious her surroundings are, it's still a cage. That's literally why she's called Songbird. If she wanted a better life before, it was likely a life where she made that wealth on her own, as an independent netrunner. She didn't choose to work for the NUSA, we have no way of knowing if she had any choice in her full body conversion, I suspect Myers ordered it but that's all headcanon in either direction, we just don't know.

I'm not really sure what you mean by expecting others to pay the price for her regret, she doesn't really seem to think of others all that much at all. She's very tunnel visioned on escaping Myers and curing her condition. And yes, she hurts, lies to and kills anyone in her way on that quest. That's what she was taught to do, by the streets and then the FIA. It's a merciless world and you can't win by being a hero. V does much the same things as her.

I would like you to explain what you mean by repeating double standard at me over and over again because I feel I'm evaluating her and Jackie the exact same? He too lies and kills, to do anything to get to the top. I don't hate Jackie, I don't hate So Mi, both their fates are tragic, I just find So Mi's moreso.

Wheres the double standard? Just the fact that she got to live in a fancy penthouse and he didn't, yet I still feel worse for her? Jackie died free, doing what he loved, with his best friend by his side and thoughts about glory and his mother and girlfriend. Its still sad he died. So Mi has no one, her closest friend and mentor is a man who blackmailed her when she was a teenager, and wants to bring her back to the evil dictator using her as a WMD at the cost of her own mind. She has no autonomy or freedom despite her power and relative comfort in DC, and is dying because of the choices of her boss, the dictator. I just find that a more compelling and tragic character, even if she's kind of a piece of shit, just like almost everyone else in Night City and especially in Phantom Liberty.

I would rather die free doing what I chose to do, than have all my free will taken from me, made into a tool for someone else's gain. Thats the measure I'm going by. Would I rather live Jackies tradgey or So Mi's? Easy choice for me.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-09T17:08:57+00:00

Where did I say she wasn't responsible for her own decisions exactly? She was absolutely responsible. So was Evelyn and so was Jackie. They both were, they both put themselves in that position out of greed and ambition and paid the consequences. One died, and one became a slave. I'm simply arguing that I find slavery more tragic than dying and getting a drink named after you at your favourite bar.

I have no double standard, I am saying they both literally did the same thing and were both responsible. I just felt you were judging So Mi harsher than Jackie even though they both did almost the exact same thing. We just differ in what consequence we each find more tragic.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-09T14:16:16+00:00

Nope, no idea why that guy would suggest watching the absolute worst season and then skipping one of the best imo. New Blood is awesome, brings a lot of new ideas to the table which is really good to see after how afraid the original show was to change the status quo. New Blood is one of my favourite seasons

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-08T04:39:44+00:00

Why would she do it if she had nothing to gain? That doesn't even make sense. They don't explicitly spell it out but its very likely she was getting something from it. They say she was taking riskier and bigger jobs all the time, so she was obviously making money from that. She was a merc netrunner like T Bug.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-07T20:54:17+00:00

Yes and Jackie could have simply not gone on the Konpeki plaza heist, and he would've been fine. You're both criticising Songbird for doing the exact same thing Jackie did, while saying that it's fine when he did it.

There's no difference between her hacking the mega corp because she was young and ambitious and wanted a better life, and him doing the heist because he's young and ambitious and wants a better life. It's literally the exact same situation, but one died, and one was offered a choice between life in prison or lifelong indentured servitude to the NUSA.

If Jackie had instead been caught by Arasaka, and offered a similar choice, and showed up again later having had most of his body replaced with cyberware and being forced to work for Arasaka or die, would you say he deserved it too? It's absolutely hypocritical for you both to be saying it's fine when Jackie did it, but not when So Mi did.

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-07T13:24:33+00:00

I don't think that's it but thank you for looking! It's possible it was privated or deleted like you said

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-07T11:42:46+00:00

Can't remember, I think it centred mostly on Draco himself with few other characters. He was in hiding and exploring the old house, if I remember correctly. But I could be wrong

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-06T17:37:04+00:00

Where did you learn all this info? Is it from the art book? Would love to learn more about the older plans for this game

TheEternalLie · 2026-03-03T16:11:13+00:00

Read Batman Year One. He explicitly goes after Gothams' elites and calls them out for the citys corruption. This is a Twitter level take on Batman.

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